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Hello, As you may have heard Miss California Carrie Prejean lost the Miss USA Pageant recently. She was asked a loaded question by a celeb blogger with an agenda. Perez Hilton asked Prejean her views on same-sex marriage. It was widely known that Prejean is a pretty vocal Christian (by the way, not all Christians agree with her). However, she answered the question honestly, saying that Americans are free to choose but that she believes marriage should be between a man and a woman. Carrie's answer to the hot button question cost her the crown - at least according to Perez.. "The way miss California answered her question lost her the crown, without a doubt!" Perez told Access Hollywood. Why? I am tired of people like Hilton screaming about free speech but crucifying (pun intended) anyone who does not agree with them. And yes, I am aware that semi-nude pictures she took as a teen have now surfaced. I am not going to judge her for being a model or making a decision to pose for them one way or another. Because I am a Christian. She is a model. Not a role model. I think we really get these things confused at times in this country. What are your thoughts? Thank you for visiting and I look forward to your comments. Christine
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Posted by: Peter Location: Poynette to Portage
I know I am late on this question, but I support Carrie Prejean TOTALLY! That type of question HAS NO PLACE IN A CONTEST OF THIS TYPE. Why is everything judged by "Political Correctness?" Why is political correctness determined by ONLY LIBERALS, and in this case people of gay persuasion? The woman stated her views, and was even inclusive about gays having the freedom to be who they are. The QUESTIONER is the one at fault here, hoping to get someone to speak glowing words about his own gay agenda. These attitudes only hurt the gay cause with Christians who are answerable to a HIGHER moral power. The gay agenda just slams it down our throats. Miss Prejean paid a BIG price for her stand. She is to be commended. Christianity is not about bashing gays, or other "sinners" for that matter. It is about recognizing that we are ALL imperfect and need a Savior, who happens to be Jesus Christ, who PAID THE PRICE for our selfish sins. I am, too, a sinner. I have found grace and real love in Jesus. Posted by: Wallace Location: Door County How can a blog topic on Miss California morph into commentary on Mike Jackson. As the great Don King says,'only in America'. Posted by: Anonymous Al, he was never convicted moron. Posted by: Pearlie Mae Location: Janesville Time for a new blog topic, Ms. Christine? Posted by: Al Location: Lake Delton This has nothing to do with this topic, but why are people so nuts over someone who had sex with kids? Yes he was a great artist, he also never did anything about getting help for his sex crimes. He run away insted of getting help, or paying for his crimes. I would like everyone who feels he is so great to remember that a child sex ofender moves in next door, so that that person is treated know different than you would Mike Jackson. Posted by: Mike Location: Madison Matt- sorry, guess you didn't catch that I was using sarcasm as an example. But it is nice to see someone was able to see that tolerance is subjective, as is the definition of love, and marriage. Yes, for me to preach about accepting people's choice of definitions of marriage, and then call them names for not possibly understanding a word I used is hypocritical- as is saying you believe in the freedom to say whatever you feel in the words you choose to use, but find it repulsive to think to members of the same sex can marry. It was also nice to see, wthout fail, that someone somewhere judged me for the words I used, because they didn't agree with the way I expressed myself- guess freedom of speech is still a dream, too. Posted by: Matt Location: Stoughton Interesting Mike that your form of tolerance has you referring to people as "undereducated intolerant jerks". Posted by: Mike Location: Madison Oh, Come on! is this really about words and definitions, or is this the same old rhetoric about people's religious VALUES being offended? Free speech means you TOLERATE the choice of wrds someone else had made to express themselves... funny how you same people expect everyone to tolerate your words of hate and intolerance of other people's choices to express their commitment and love for each other! FYI- I'm heterosexual (straight, I like girls for all you undereducated intolerant jerks who don't what hetero means!) and I am not offended or threatened by two men, or two women kissing near me, holding hands, getting married, or adopting. for all the orphans in this world, for all the people oppressed by society's intolerance of their choice of life partners... doesn't matter to me. nor does it matter to my 14 year old son, or my Catholic ex-wife! you expect people to tolerate your choices, but you condemn them for theirs? This is why "Liberal" WI sucks so hard! Posted by: Lynn Location: WI. Hey Christine, I disagree with you on one point. Miss USA Pageant contestants are role models for many young women. However, I do agree with the fact that she is entitled to her opinions,(even though I don't agree with them). What bothers me about the whole thing is her uninformed and fractured answer to the question. I don't remember exactly how she answered the question (my little brain can only hold so much information at a time), but she went on about how we live in a land that you can choose same sex marriage or opposite marriage and something about in her country. She sounded very uninformed. That's what bothered me. And as far as Perez Hilton goes, Polo Molina should have hit him harder. Now,Perez is a guy who has had more than his 15 minutes of fame. Posted by: Gizmo Location: Portage Perez Hilton back in the news: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98VS5RG1&show_article=1 Getting punched by Black Eyed Peas manager. Perez, what a schmuck. Posted by: Margot Location: California It comes down to Freedom of Speech, to have freedom of speech we must have speech which is definable to place our convictions with. The word Marriage has always had the long-held definition to people to be between a man and a woman. This is defined as such in religions of many faiths. To allow "marriage" to include gays goes against the definition which people hold close to their heart. Solution is to come up with another word people then fight for your rights instead of fighting those who are fighting for their freedom to use speech that is definable to them for many centuries. If you think there was no agenda behind her getting de-throned, be suspect. Most contracts are written with the ability to fire anyone, don't you think Trump is smart enough to have this. Unfortunately, he was a push-overt in the end and got bought out, it appears. Fight for Freedom of Speech, next pageant for California will be California Robot USA! They will be pre-screened and scripted!Beware! Posted by: Margaret Location: Foster City, CA Did Miss Prejean really violate California USA contract by missing some events? I would view and evaluate contract if possible...Is freedom of speech sanctionable, ? Trump now says she spoke at unsanctioned events-is this true? Most Americans are against gay marriage according to polls. Shouldn't the minority respect freedom of speech of other's views and realize why and change their strategy? Really, if more sanctions against freedom of speech occur, isn't everyone at risk of losing liberties? Why can't people just call same sex marriage something other than marriage? Isn't that a solution? A new word for same sex unions makes sense. Why try to force people to change a long-held tradition and definition of the word marriage which is often tied to their faith in God and defined in religion. Fight for rights under a different name and definition, isn't that easier than fighting definitions and others views. Let the word be, get a new word and then fight for rights! Posted by: G Location: Madison Will, you ask who gives Perez Hilton the right to judge? He was a JUDGE in the pageant....so I guess he can in fact, Judge her answer. Posted by: Gizmo Location: Portage YES! YES! We all have the freedom to speech. If we are a public figure, we also have freedom to criticize. Miss Cali has the right to say what she thinks and the others have the right to criticize. The issues - why did Miss USA let a hack like Perez Hilton on? Why didn't Miss Cali answer in a more subtle fashion? Miss Cali is just a talking head - maybe a career in TV is in the future. Posted by: Will Location: Madison, WI Bravo! Chrristine. Thanks for sticking up for free speech and for someone who was willing to speak up for her beliefs. It is about time that we stop giving celebrities a position of importance as if they were the ultimate authorities.Who gave Perez Hilton the right to judge her anyway. Posted by: Yassir Location: Waunakee She's just a beauty pageant contestant. Why the uproar? So, she has an opinion many agree or disagree with. Not an important issue. She definitely has milked it for all it's worth and may parlay this into something bigger. Perez Hilton - he/she's a putz. Posted by: Scott Christine: Perez Hilton asked Carrie Prejean "do you think every state should legalize gay marriage",not her personal opinion on the issue but if "every state should legalize", it as Vermont legally just did.I believe as she does, but I would have answered his question in a different way. I would have said that every state should have the legal right to question it's residents on the matter at the ballot box.Hey maybe I should run for public office. Just kidding. I always answer questions exactly as they are asked. Thanks Posted by: c Location: madison thank you, steve. i too, like facts. i really don't give a crap what miss usa thinks about gay marriage--she can say whatever she wants. regardless of what you think about his movies (or apparently all the things he should shut up about), gun control, the iraq war, health care, etc. are things that greatly impact our society. so, if he wants to put them on the agenda by making movies, i say go for it. at least it gets us talking. Posted by: Steve Location: Madison Ted, would you care to expand on some of Michael Moore's "half truths" or "far left wacko" rants? If you dislike MM as much as you do, I would find it unlikely you have seen any of his movies or listened to any of his rants. If that is the case, your post is just a lot of hot air. I'd like some facts. Facts have never been a friend to your average wingnut. Posted by: Ted Location: Janesville There is a huge difference between this and Michael Moore. M M was and is a far left wacko that went to the extreme to spout off and try to ruin a sitting president and sway an election using half truths and sensationalism. On the other hand, Carrie Prejean simply gave her honest, personal opinion when asked a question. That was it. No false statements, no attacks. Just an honest opinion. She has stated she does not hate gays. She just believes in the fact that marriage is between one man and one woman. Anything since is just that. After all the attacks she still says only one thing, what she believes. Nothing more. Big difference between the too. I also feel good about the fact that I can support her statement and not want to here M M 's rant. And by the way, as a swm, I did not get nor did I make a stink about getting special treatment during an 11 year relationship before marriage. I did not have a parade to show the world what I did at home. Posted by: Sheri Location: Beaver Dam I can't believe you. The very thing you ride Michael Moore about you stand up and cheer Miss California on for. I think you are so two faced it is not funny!!!!! If it is something you agree with well then speak louder if not then sit down and shut up, Christine you are something else. Posted by: Gloria Location: Spring Green Christine, you are right on the money, as usual. Miss Ca is being castigated because her views are Christian and conservative, not because she spoke her mind. What no one seems to notice is the irony/hypocrisy of the concept that a beauty pageant is one of the most anachronistic rituals around: women (albeit willingly) parading themselves around like cattle and being judged primarily on their looks and how they wear a swimsuit, and then this yahoo judge with his PC ideas of homosexuality in the twenty first century--what could be more ludricrous? He is judging her beliefs as being unfair and old fashioned as he serves in a capacity to objectify women as primarily sex toys. Puhleez! Posted by: Teresa Location: Wisconsin I was taught a lesson once a long time ago, If you ask a question, you have to accept the answer whether you like it or not. She answered the question honestly - what more can you ask?? We have freedom of speech and (un)fortunately that applies to people who speak words we like or don't like. Regarding gay marriage?? Who are we to stand in the way of love between two consenting adults?? Love is Love and sometime it sure can strike hard when you least expect it! Anyway, Carrie spoke the words she believed; gay people have a right to love just as non-gay people do. In the words of the Beatles - Let it be. Posted by: Brenda Location: Oregon I love the topic! Thanks. It seems however, we are encouraged to express our opnions and our consitutational rights to do so, however, when we do we are quickly placed under the microsope for any thing we say. YES this was a loaded question and political as well and these sort of questions should be void from the contest altogether! Now, if she had said something different... I"m sure, she would have been crucified by the other side as well. It was a unfair question period! I thought she handled it well.. and for pictues I could really care less. Many do what they must to put food on the table. She did not harm anyone.. so I say so what. Posted by: c Location: madison Christine, I understand your point about the Miss USA contestant. However, you think Michael Moore should be silenced. Partisan crap aside, don't you think both deserve free speech, regardless of how annoying one or both of their comments seem to be? Posted by: Roger Location: Madison Eric is correct, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22. Eric should also point out that the bible considers eating shrimp and lobster an abomination as well (Leviticus 11:10). Other abominations? Why yes! Shaving (Leviticus 19:27) and working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2). There are more abominations too! The bible does however allow selling your daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7) and owning slaves (Leviticus 25:44). Eric, would you like a shimp cocktail?? Posted by: ugh Location: Madison It's just a book people... it's not meant to be taken literally... yes I'm talking about the bible. It's full of general ideals and ideologies to live by (love your neighbor, be a good person) stop taking every single word so literally! If you hate gays and oppose gay marraige "because the bible says it's a sin" how are you "loving your neighbor as yourself" like the bible tells you as well?? It's just a book full of a bunch of stories and if all are taken litterally they will eventually end up contradicting each other. If it's taken as a general guidline for living your life as a good person... it's much more applicable to real life. Posted by: Eric Location: Madison Believing in gay marriage and saying you are a Christian are two things that are impossible to go together. No where does the Word of God condone it. The Word of God is specific and the ONLY TRUTH, it is never affected or changed by man's opinion. Man likes to think he can twist the Word of God. But standard of the Creator will never be defiled by the sin of the creation. True men and women of God could never believe that gay marriage is anything but another sickening, selfish sin of man. The true sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman will stand in the end, and all we can do as "real" Christians is pray for those who would try to say or do different. Posted by: Jon Location: Madison I agree 100% Christine, all this young woman did was give her honest opinion and now she is being thrown to the wolves for it. I mean honestly, what was she supposed to do. If she answers honestly (which she is entitled to do) she gets a public beat down, if she DOES NOT answer honestly and maybe even goes on to win the crown, then perhapts years down the road it would come out the she lied on stage and onther public beat down would occur, no win for her and she was only expressing her right to free speech which is what many in this country fight for. In addition look at the audience and the person asking the question, Perez Hilton, a homosexual male, hello! This poor woman had no chance. To me this is like going back in time to Germany 1941 and having Adolf Hitler walk up to you and want to know your honest answer as to if he is doing a "good job" Your choices are simple, lie or get shot. Totally unfair to have Perez Hilton ask that question. Posted by: Jim Location: Cambridge Say what you want as long as you believe in what you say. Miss North Carolina/Kristen Dalton 2009 Miss USA Posted by: Don Location: madison For all who have commented that Miss California has a right to her beliefs--Amen. To Perez Hilton for using his honorary positon in the pageant to promote his cause-may he never get anouther opportunity. Posted by: Christine Hello Jean - After 2 decades of dating, I am still no expert. I think it is wonderful that you have tried to talk to your son about what happened. Just remember, only the two people in that relationship ever really know what happened. We all make mistakes. If we are lucky, we are given another day to make them right or learn from them. At the very least, I like to keep a healthy sense of humor about myself. Just keep communicating with him. Sounds like he has a very good relationship with you. And men who do, usually turn out to be fabulous friends, boyfriends, partners and husbands! Happy Mother's Day. Posted by: Jean Location: Beaver Dam Christine,This is an older topic but one that I think about when I watch your morning show before work.My 20yr old son was a victim of the E-mail dump by his girlfriend of 3 yrs.They had just spent a great weekend together and by Wed the fateful E-mail arrived.He was devestated.It's now 8 months later and he's well into moving on.I can't help but think there will be issues with future relationships.We've talked all around the subject.Just wandering if you've come to terms with the rudness and cowardess involved.I'd like to think this is a once in a lifetime occurence but communication has gotten too impersonal with technology. It's a rotten way to be treated by an acquaintance much less a loved one. Guess I want to know how you're doing and maybe pass it along to my young man who lives his life with integrity ,manners and a sense of decency that not everyone has. He found that out the hard way. I incidently thought his girlfriend was made of the same stuff. Thanks for listening. Posted by: Matt Location: Stoughton I am all for equal rights for all people. What I am against is special rights for select groups to the point that their lifestyles, beliefs, etc are elevated to such a level that, if you disagree with them, you are labeled a (fill-in-the-blank)phobe. Special rights are granted when laws are passed to give extra protection, even to the point of restricting the free speech of others. Anybody aware of the law that recently passed in Colorado regarding speaking out publicly against the gay lifestyle? Disagreement does not necessarily mean hate. I guess there is such a thing as an "intolerant tolerant". In my opinion life would be much better if we could simply "agree to disagree" and allow open debate to continue in the public square. Posted by: Peaches Location: Madison _East Side Could "Anonymous" = Michael Moore? Quite an honor if he read your blog, Christine. ;) Posted by: Christine David, what a beautifully put comment. I have really enjoyed *all* of these by the way. And to "Anonymous" Michael Moore has not been totally honest. Miss California has. Posted by: David S. Just remember that Mr. Hilton does not speak for his 'gay community'. I have no problem with Miss California speaking her opinion, after all, she was asked. I would hope that people would realize Mr. Hilton speaks for himself, and not blanket his statements over every person or group that preaches tolerance. Posted by: Anonymous Much like you crucify Michael Moore? Posted by: Michelle Location: Janesville There are so many better role models for girls other than models and actresses with issues, problems, etc. Even as a kid I never looked to Miss USA or any of the other pagents as a role model. Those in the 'real' world are more of a role model. Whether it be a teacher, church member, babysitter, coach, Christine & Sarah or other media that are actually real people and you can actually communicate with verses the fantasy. Anyone can be anything they put their mind to. Anyone can make a bad choice, such as posing nude. Whether the photos were of her before or after age 18 is irrelevant, she made a bad decision. She needs to live with that. It's not for anyone to judge her. I agree with Christine, she's a model, and actress. Not a role model. The problem with the media and society is they contradict themselves all the time. How are the youth of this country supposed to make heads or tails or any of it if opinions can't for either side can't be stated? Posted by: JJ Location: Madison Hey, girl, hey!!! I agree with you 100% I think Perez Hilton is a huge drama queen with his own agenda. In his mind, anyone who disagrees with him is wrong. Miss California spoke from her heart, and I give her credit for that. I do not agree with what she said, but I also believe the question was extremely loaded. And really, no matter how she answered she was going to make people angry. Lay off Miss California... She was running for Miss United States, not for President of the United States. How many people can name the last four young ladies who won the crown of Miss United States? I don't even know this years winner! Perez Hilton says that she would represent all of us... I guess I don't see how that could be, because no one knows her name... We didn't elect this woman to represent us. Carrie Prejean spoke honestly, from her heart in the face of a very loaded question. Everyone should feel free to voice their opinion! Posted by: Elrod Location: Belleville She's entitled to her opinion, judges are entitled to their votes. I thought she deserved to win - but she's had more than her 15 minutes. Posted by: Jasmin Location: Madison I agree she should be free to express her opinion. I don't agree with her. That said, while the GLBT communities nationwide are fighting for the right to be equal; it's disheartening that an icon who would certainly not be where she is without the gay community, should consider the bigotry she supports with comments she makes. Finally while she has the right to say what she did...remember this...she joins the category of Fred Phelps when she takes this position and uses something like a "Beauty Pagaent" as her pulpit. Posted by: Jennifer Location: Madison, WI I agree, Christine. I don't agree with Ms. CA one bit, but even more don't agree w/ how she's being treated. She's being open, honest, and respectful (albeit misguided), and she deserves the same in return. Just b/c people disagree, doesn't mean they have to get nasty. Perez showed his true colors when he resorted to name calling. Furthermore, we should consider Ms. CA's willingness to be open and honest in a respectful manner as an invitation to dialogue, need I say an opportunity to further educate her (or at least try). By condemning her and others like her we push their phobias and ism's into the covert realm, which breeds the worst kind of discrimination. At least when phobias and isms are overt where know where people stand and have an opportunity to present an alternative view. Posted by: Zoeysmom92081 Location: Vista, CA Yep, I'm from Carrie Prejean's hometown. While I disagree with her wholeheartedly I will defend to the death her right to voice her opinion. She even said "no offense" in her answer. First, we're talking about some Donald Trump product with some nobody as a judge, why does a trash talking blogger have credentials to judge a beauty contest. Arrgh. However, I have to disagree with you a bit Christine. I'm old school and she is a role model for young girls, like it or not. Nudie photos and more importantly, the breast implants paid for by the California pageant are a big no-no in my book. The saddest thing of all, Carrie Prejean is the new Sarah Palin and nobody knows Miss USA's - the winner- name. I know I don't. Posted by: Michelle Location: Janesville To me it doesn't matter whether or not it cost her the crown, what matters is that some fool is judging her for her OPINION. Freedom of Speech is a right in this country and rags like the tabloids & Perez Hilton seem to think that she isn't allowed her OPINION. Well, jump on my band wagon; I agree with her opinion. As a fellow Christian I believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. However, that doesn't mean that I don't believe gays and lesbians shouldn't have that right. It isn't our place to judge. Only God can do that. Posted by: G Location: Madison Umm, it cost her the crown because he was a JUDGE on the pageant and didn't like her answer. If he was not judging the pageant then this isn't even an issue. He has just as much right to not like her answer because he was in fact JUDGING the contestant's responses. Although I don't agree with her response I applaud her for being honest and not giving a blanket, open ended response like the usual beauty queen. Posted by: J Location: Madison I agree completely Christine. She has the right to voice whatever opinion she wants, frankly, this is how the "question and answer" section of the pageant typically goes. However, people need to remember, these contestants aren't rocket scientists, or the for most leading authority on ethical issues in America... they are just pretty girls in pageant makeup and we need to remember that none of us should really care what this broad has to say anyway! |
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