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Updated Tuesday --- February 26, 2008 --- 12:15pm

As motorists were stranded, Wis. traffic cameras collected dust

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Traffic cameras that could have helped authorities detect a backup that stranded thousands of motorists in a snowstorm earlier this month have been in storage for years.

Authorities including Rock County Sheriff Robert Spoden say the cameras could have helped them understand earlier the severity of the traffic jam between Madison and Janesville.

Spoden says he's frustrated every time he drives past poles on Interstate 39-90 that were supposed to hold the cameras.

The state bought the cameras for $20,000 in 2004 with a federal grant.

But transportation officials say the money to run them would have to come out of the Department of Transportation's already tight budget.

DOT's highway operations director David Vieth says the cameras seem like a good idea in hindsight, but before the traffic jam, there were more pressing needs to spend money on.

AP

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Updated Thursday --- February 21, 2008 -- 8:30pm

"I want to apologize to all the stranded motorists who were stranded on the interstate that day," says Wisconsin State Patrol superintendent, David Collins. "The interstate should have been closed on February 6th."

This apology comes more than 2 weeks after the interstate pileup that left almost 2 thousand motorists stranded on the highway for hours. Now the Wisconsin State Patrol is taking full responsibility for their slow response.

"The Wisconsin State Patrol did not recognize early enough the potential and the eventual severity of this backup and the need to deal with those vehicles trapped inside of it."

Brigadier General Don Dunbar, who prepared the interstate pileup report, pinpoints that "...this delay in recognition caused the loss of precious hours that could have allowed alternative courses of action to be considered which might have mitigated the depth and breadth of this emergency."

"I am not blasting the State Patrol, I'm being critical," says Dunbar. "I think we were all frustrated that night and yes I am disappointed. The people of Wisconsin deserve better."

But there was some good, the report brags. The Department of Natural Resources, the National Guard, Dane and Rock Counties are praised for assisting the State Patrol throughout the night. Food and other supplies were brought to stranded motorists while county crews worked to pull semis out of the mess. But the main problem was communication.

"It's clear that the State Patrol's leadership that afternoon was slow and ineffective that recognizing the situation had turned from a traffic problem out on the interstate to a public safety crisis," says Governor Jim Doyle. "The failure here was not understanding that a crisis was building and building and building."

The report outlines several issues and possible solutions.

Problem #1: Deciding on who has jurisdiction in the area.
Solution: The state needs to clarify who is responsible for what area of the highway.

Problem #2: Situational awareness.
Solution: The report suggests that radio traffic and e-mails in the State Patrol offices be monitored.

Problem #3: Relaying information to stranded motorists.
Solution: The report states emergency response teams need to purchase technology that would help them relay information to the public better.

But despite the criticism of their response, the Wisconsin State Patrol is looking towards the future.

"We embrace those criticisms and we look forward to making improvements to make sure again that this incident does not happen again," says Collins.

Updated Thursday --- February 21, 2008 -- 5:30pm

Interstate Report Positives

The massive interstate back-up earlier this month was an event many would like to forget, but there were some bright spots.

"Some agencies performed very well," said Brigadier General Don Dunbar at a press conference Thursday morning.

And the first one the report mentions is Dane County.

Said Dane County Executive Kathleen Falk, "I am grateful that the state report acknowledged the assistance of Dane County and we tried hard to be of assistance to them."

At 4:00 that day Dane County officials were alerted to the problem. Not only did they assist the State Patrol but they also looked after the general welfare of those stranded.

"We train we try to learn from every situation," added Falk. "We will learn from this one of course, but that is how you keep getting better."

The DNR was also recognized for its efforts. Wardens used their snowmobiles to deliver food, water, and blankets to the motorists.

"Being an administrator and not being in the field it was a proud moment for me to see our wardens lined up getting ready to go out on the interstate with the snow mobiles with their red and blue lights on," said Warden Karl Brooks.

And the effort of the community as a whole could not be left out. The day after the storm we introduced you to a man who spent hours that day walking up and down the interstate giving stranded motorists hot soup, coffee, water, bread, cookies, blankets and even gas.

"I just did it out of the spur of the moment," said John Kaczmerek. "I didn't want to see anyone get hurt or something to happen to them."

Stated Brigadier General Dunbar, "It would be a great injustice if I did not say emphatically and for the record that our front line responders, the state troopers, sheriff's deputies, police departments, fire departments, EMS crews, snow plow drivers, tow truck operators, sand and salt crews, DNR Wardens and national guard soldiers all performed magnificently."

Brooks also said that as far as he knows they has never deployed a team of snowmobiles on the interstate. And he said they really didn't have to choice. Given the conditions, they had no other way to get to the stranded motorists.

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Updated Thursday --- February 21, 2008 -- 4:20pm

Wisconsin governor apologizes to stranded motorists for poor response

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Gov. Jim Doyle has apologized for the state's poor response to an interstate traffic backup that left thousands of motorists stranded for hours.

Doyle says many of the people would not have been stranded if authorities had recognized the scope of the problem earlier on Feb. 6th.

He says there were significant failures and mistakes made at the highest levels of the State Patrol and other agencies.

The governor says Interstate 39-90 could have been closed, the state should have warned drivers about the backup earlier and a state of emergency should have been declared hours before it was.

Doyle spoke after the head of the Wisconsin National Guard released a report that documented the missteps.

AP

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Updated Thursday --- February 21, 2008 --- 1:30pm

Governor Doyle asked officials to develop a report on the state and local emergency response to motorists stranded by the February 6th snowstorm on Interstate 39/90 between Madison and Janesville.

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Report blasts State Patrol for slow response to Wisconsin traffic jam

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- A report released Thursday says the State Patrol's response to the traffic backup that left more than 2,000 motorists stranded on an interstate near Madison was slow and ineffective.

A report by National Guard Brigadier General Donald Dunbar says the State Patrol was slow to recognize an emergency existed February 6th, which meant it missed chances to keep the backup from growing.

Governor Doyle asked Dunbar to investigate the emergency response to the backup that left motorists stranded overnight on Interstate 39-90. The backup started when semitrailers were unable to get up a hill because of the storm that dumped more than a foot of snow on southern Wisconsin.

Dunbar's 170-page report catalogs missteps by numerous state agencies, but saves its harshest criticism for the patrol, which was the lead responder.

The report says the State Patrol did not view the backup as significant because there was no physical crash and its incident commander was slow to respond.

AP

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A press conference is scheduled for TODAY at 11:00am to discuss the Interstate back-up and snowstorm on February 6th.

The report recounts the storm response in a detailed timeline, and also addresses three specific issues:

*** Coordination and communication among multiple agencies and
jurisdictions in responding to the situation

*** Accurate and timely assessment of the severity of the situation

*** Effective and timely communication of the situation to the public

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POSTED: Monday, February 11, 2008 -- 5:20pm

Both lanes of the Interstate near Stoughton prove dangerous, but what's to blame?

This isn't the first time there have been problems. That's according to the director of the Wisconsin Department of Transportation's Bureau of Highway Operations. Dave Vieth wouldn't go on camera, Monday, but says I-39/90 near Stoughton is prone to poor road conditions.

The DOT is reviewing the terrain to see if physical changes are needed, or if additional preventive measures are necessary.

Semis, in particular, are having trouble making it up a gradual incline in snow and ice.

"I know we have 18 wheels versus four, but still our weight is so different on our tractors and that," says Gordon Schneider, a truck driver from Alabama.

Authorities say stalled semis led to last Wednesday's massive backup. It stretched nearly 20 mile, stranding people for several hours.

"Like anything there are some truck drivers that can't handle it and some that can," says Kenneth Truman, from Medford, Wisconsin.

Truman hasn't had any trouble this winter, but has before. He says communication can prevent a bad situation from turning worse.

"Best thing you can do is listen to the radio and find out what's going on, or when there's a backup like that, the cops should be back at an exit where you can get around it," he says.

But, communication, or lack thereof, is also part the review requested by the governor.

Over the weekend, both Saturday and Sunday, more traffic delays and backups occurred near the Stoughton exit.

Monday, Governor Doyle said it appears law enforcement learned a lesson and was quick to relay information.

As it relates to our upcoming snowstorm, Vieth says crews will work the stretch of Interstate the same as they always have, by plowing and spreading salt. However, he says drivers need to consider the weather conditions and avoid travel when it becomes dangerous.

The governor is calling for the review to be complete by the end of the week.

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Updated Friday --- February 8, 2008 --- 9:30pm

"If you analyze all of the excuses the State Patrol chairman made they're really far fetched. And for him to remain unaccountable is not acceptable," says driver, Rob Kovach.

Angry and frustrated motorists are dissatisfied with explanations as to why they were left stranded for hours on I-90 this past Wednesday. Now Governor Doyle has called for a review of the emergency response.

"It was clear to me that the gravity of the situation was not recognized for some period of time and one of my requests of General Dunbar is that we have a full report of how the information was coming in," says Governor Doyle.

Kelly Noel was stranded for 9 hours just near her exit. And after calling Wisconsin State Patrol several times she got no answers.

"I was thinking this is ridiculous that nobody knew anything. There was no information. Nobody came by to make sure people were okay. I mean I had food and water but not everybody did," says Noel.

Sharing the same frustrations was Robert Kovach. Although stopped for only 5 hours he planned his trip trying to avoid the blocked highway.

"I had my wife on the phone and I was having her check all the traffic reports and all the websites and listening to her say how badly this website was and this one wasn't updated. Just as she was getting frustrated with how little information she could find online about the problem I told her to nevermind I had found it."

The review of the emergency response will address communication between agencies, the timely assessment of the situation and the communication of it to the public in hopes that another situation like this could be prevented.

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Updated Friday --- February 8, 2008 --- 6:30pm

Wis. governor says he's concerned by response to traffic backup

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Gov. Jim Doyle says he's concerned by the state's response to an interstate traffic backup that left thousands of motorists stranded in a snowstorm.

Doyle says authorities initially failed to understand the severity of the backup.

He says he didn't learn about the situation on Interstate 39-90 until about 7 p.m. on Wednesday night. By then, many motorists said they had been stranded for several hours.

Doyle says he wants to know how 911 calls from motorists were handled and who was responsible for assessing the problem.

He also says he also wants to know whether authorities could have given greater warnings for people to avoid the stretch of highway between Madison and Janesville.

Doyle says he expects a full report on the emergency response by the end of next week.

AP

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Updated Friday --- February 8, 2008 --- 12:15pm

Governor Doyle called for a review Thursday evening of the emergency response to Wednesday's backup on I-90.

More than 2,000 vehicles were stranded in snow drifts up to 4 feet high and many of them needed to be moved one by one.

Here is the Official Release from Governor Doyle's Office:

Governor Jim Doyle today called for a review of the emergency response to motorists stranded by a snowstorm Wednesday on Interstate 39-90 between Madison and Janesville.

“I am concerned about the motorists who were stranded by the storm and am directing Brigadier General Donald Dunbar to conduct a complete review of the emergency response,” Governor Doyle said today.

Some of the specific areas Governor Doyle would like this review to address are:

· Coordination and communication among multiple agencies and jurisdictions in responding to the situation

· Accurate and timely assessment of the severity of the situation

· Effective and timely communication of the situation to the public

Governor Doyle thanked and recognized the emergency personnel, the first responders, the State Patrol and members of the National Guard who worked very long and hard so that all the motorists stranded along almost 20 miles of Interstate emerged safely. But whenever there is situation of this magnitude, Governor Doyle said that a quick and thorough review of the response is in order.

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Updated Thursday --- February 7, 2008 --- 6:10pm

Madison: The State Patrol says the incident began when several semitrailer trucks lost traction and got stuck on a small hill. That back-up caused a close to 20 mile back-up and motorists were stuck for more than 10 hours.

More than 2,000 vehicles were stranded in snow drifts up to 4 feet high and many of them needed to be moved one by one.

"The conditions in that area were absolutely the most challenging I've ever seen in 28 years of law enforcement," says David Collins, Superintendent of the Wisconsin State Patrol.

The problem started early Wednesday afternoon at mile marker 157 near Stoughton. In the middle of one of the worst snow storms in decades, a few semis got stuck going up an incline in the westbound lanes of I-90.

Traffic came to a halt, but the State Patrol didn't realize it right away. "The reports didn't come in initially as any type of crashes," says Collins.

It took hours for snowplows and wreckers to reach the bottleneck, and they had to move each semi individually. "Wrecker operators needed to work not only in front of the vehicles but behind the vehicles, once we had plows in there to get the major snow pushed back, the roads were still slippery, to put down some time of a salt and sand mixture," says Collins.

By 8 pm the National Guard was mobilizing, and at 10:15 the Governor declared a State of Emergency.

Soldiers used snowmobiles and ATV's to deliver water, blankets and food to stranded motorists.

Collins says there were no medical emergencies, but it took hours to get traffic moving. "We had to knock on those doors of dozens if not hundreds of those trucks to tell them there's nobody in front of you it's time to move."

Many motorists asked why the interstate wasn't closed. Collins says for one, you can't just close an interstate with 100's of ramps, and the side roads were in worse condition than the interstate. "There was not a safe route where I felt we could bring any of this traffic off to, to get them onto their destinations without creating more problems and potential serious problems."

The State Patrol, National Guard and Emergency Management will conduct what's called an after-action report to see what they would do differently. The one thing Collins says they will look at is getting more accurate information to the media and the public earlier in the day.

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Updated Thursday --- February 7, 2008 -- 3:15pm

The State Patrol released figures on the number of motorists stranded in the I-90 backup.

State Patrol Numbers from the National Guard Helicopter Counts:

Stranded westbound from milemarker 60 to milemarker 77:
--- 663 CARS
--- 689 SEMIS
Westbound Total: 1,352

Stranded Eastbound from milemarker 140 to milemarker 160:
--- 134 CARS
--- 566 SEMIS
Eastbound Total: 701

Grand TOTAL of Motorists Stranded: 2,053

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Updated Thursday --- February 7, 2008 -- 12:25pm

State Patrol responds to criticism from stranded motorists

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- The head of the Wisconsin State Patrol says he sees room for improvement in the agency's response to a traffic backup that left more than 2,000 motorists stranded overnight.

Many motorists complained they did not receive offers of help from authorities for hours after they became stuck in snowy conditions on Interstate 39-90 in Dane and Rock counties.

Motorists also complained they received little official information about what was going on.

State Patrol Supt. David Collins says he will look for ways to improve how authorities communicated the situation to the public. He also says the State Patrol did not learn about the backup until about 4 p.m. Wednesday. Some motorists have said they were stuck as long as three hours earlier.

AP

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Updated Thursday --- February 7, 2008 -- 11:20am

Traffic is finally moving again on the Interstate in both Dane and Rock counties.

More than 900 drivers were stranded on 1-90. Some driver were stranded for more than 10 hours during Wednesday's powerful winter storm.

Governor Doyle, around 10:30 Wednesday night, declared a state of emergency which mobilized national guard troops to get out and help .

A press conference was held Wednesday morning at the State Emergency Operations Center.

Authorities revealed that up to 2,000 motorists were stranded on Wednesday.

Stay tuned for further details.

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Posted Thursday --- February 7, 2008 --- 9:55am

Stranded motorists spend the night on the interstate

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Hundreds of stranded motorists spent the night on the interstate in Rock and Dane counties sleeping or trying to keep warm.

NBC-15 Reporter Evrod Cassimy was on his way to work from Rockford, Illinois and was among at least 800 vehicles that got stuck on I-90 Wednesday afternoon. For Cassimy, frustration gave way to panic when he began to wonder if anyone was coming to help. Cassimy says he called 911 three times and started his car in intervals to conserve gas and keep warm. He had his lunch in the back seat, but it was a frozen dinner.

Finally, about 11 hours later, Cassimy was able to inch along on the interstate and made it to work about midnight.

And Peter Freeman left his business in Janesville early Wednesday afternoon, headed for home in Stoughton, about 25 miles away. Freeman says traffic ground to a halt on the interstate. He sat in his minivan for hours, listening to the radio and watching a movie on his DVD player.

People in the car in front of him gave him a sandwich and soda.

As hours passed, Freeman says he started to grow frustrated at the lack of official information and help. He says responders on snowmobiles came by asking whether he was okay but said they didn't know what was going on or offer him food or blankets.

Finally traffic started moving about 11 p.m. And, to add to the misery, Freeman's minivan got stuck on a exit ramp near his home. He finally got home about 1:00 Thursday morning.

AP

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Update Posted Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:20 am:

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- As many as 800 vehicles remain stranded on the interstate in Dane and Rock County because of the powerful winter storm that dumped more than a foot of snow in the area.

National Guard troops on snowmobiles and all-terrain vehicles are checking on the stranded motorists this morning.

Lieutenant Colonel Tim Donovan said today only minor medical conditions were reported.

Donovan went up in a National Guard helicopter this morning to get an aerial view of the situation.

He says there are hundreds of other vehicles that are slowly moving out of the backup on eastbound Interstate 90 south of Madison and westbound south of Janesville.

Donovan says troops are trying to wake up the stranded motorists to get them moving this morning.

The backup started when some semitrailer trucks lost traction and got stuck on a small hill. That caused a backup that stretched 19 miles.

AP
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Update Posted Thursday, 5:45am

***URGENT: Highway Patrol says ALL LANES OF THE INTERSTATE SHOULD BE AVOIDED BETWEEN MADISON AND THE ILLINOIS BORDER.

Official Announcement from Emergency Operations Center:

(MADISON) The Wisconsin Emergency Operations Center is recommending motorists avoid the use of Interstate Highways 39 and 90 south of Madison until traffic stoppages have been cleared and snow can be cleared.

The severe winter storm that dropped more than 12 inches of snow in southern Wisconsin caused significant delays in both directions of the two interstate highways in Rock and Dane counties.

A 4:00 a.m. helicopter flight over Dane and Rock counties found more than 800 vehicles—mostly tractors and semi trailers—were not moving along portions of the highways in Southern Dane County south of Madison and Northern Rock County from Janesville to the Dane County line. Where traffic was moving, it was moving very slowly on slippery, snow-covered driving lanes.

The Wisconsin Emergency Operations Center is working with the Wisconsin State Patrol, Department of Transportation, Department of Natural Resources and county officials to get traffic moving and restore the highways to good winter driving condition, but these efforts are expected to take several hours and will likely not be completed before this morning’s commute.

Emergency officials recommend motorists use alternate routes this morning to avoid the affected interstate highways while crews work to remove stuck and disabled vehicles and remove snow drifts.

Motorists should also allow plenty of time to reach their destinations

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Update Posted Thursday, 4:45am

Wisconsin State Patrol Southwest Region-Deforest Post:

"WE ARE EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS ON THE INTERSTATE SYSTEM FROM THE IL STATE LINE TO THE BADGER INTERCHANGE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. TRAVEL ON THE INTERSTATE SHOULD BE AVOIDED IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. IF YOU MUST TRAVEL AN ALTERNATE ROUTE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ALTHOUGH NO ALTERNATE ROUTES ARE BEING RECOMMENDED AT THIS TIME."

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Updated Wednesday --- February 6, 2008 -- 10:15pm

Wisconsin governor calls out Guard to help stranded motorists

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Semitrailer trucks stuck on a Wisconsin freeway during a massive snowstorm left hundreds of motorists stranded in a traffic backup, and Governor Jim Doyle called a state of emergency to have National Guard troops help them.

State emergency management personnel said there were about 500 vehicles in the backup as of Wednesday night, hours after the problem developed on Interstate 90 south of Madison.

In a conference call, officials said snowmobiles and all-terrain vehicles were used to check on the welfare of people in the stranded vehicles and also to bring them food or fuel as needed.

Lt. Col. Tim Donovan, spokesman for the Wisconsin National Guard, said 15 Humvees and two 5-ton trucks were being used to assist motorists with water and fuel, and two helicopters were being readied in case they would be needed for aerial searches or surveillance.

He said about 40 Guard soldiers were called in.

AP

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Updated Wednesday --- February 6, 2008 -- 9:30pm

About 1,000 motorists are stuck on the I-90 interstate between Madison and Janesville.

Our own Evrod Cassimy has been stranded on the Interstate since 11:30 Wednesday morning.

Evrod says traffic has started to move at around 9:30pm Wednesday night. He does stress the traffic is moving slowly.

Many of the motorists were stranded for almost 10 hours.

The Dane County Sheriff's Office says the Wisconsin National Guard has been activated to assist stranded motorists.

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Posted Wednesday --- February 6, 2008 -- 7:30pm

The westbound lane of the interstate remains closed at this hour.

It's been at a standstill since 11:30 Wednesday morning.

The Dane County sheriff's department says the National Guard has been called in.

According to a 911 dispatcher, more than 1.000 vehicles are stranded -- stretching from Madison all the way to Dane county - Rock County border.

Lori Getter with Wisconsin Emergency Management is advising people to stay in their cars.

According to Emergency Management, 10 Fire Departments from Dane County are going car to car to find out who needs food and gas.

Lori Getter with Wisconsin Emergency Management is advising people to stay in their cars.

Authorities will be delivering blankets.

Several jack-knifed semis appear to be the cause of the back-up on Wednesday morning.

The back-up appears to be along Interstate 39 between the County Highway N Stoughton exit and Highway 51 North to Stoughton.

Our reporter on scene Evrod Cassimy has been stranded on the Interstate since 11:30am Wednesday morning. Cassimy called the 911 Center Wednesday night to get an update on when help would be arriving. The 911 dispatch center says up to 1,000 cars are stranded on the Interstate. The back-up stretches from Madison to the Rock County line.

Traffic in at least one direction finally began to move early Wednesday evening.

The State Patrol says they do not want to speculate on the number of motorists stranded at this time.

We have word from the county that crews have arrived at the incident. Reports from area scanners are indicating that authorities are using ATV's and snowmobiles to rescue the stranded motorists.

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Posted by: TIM Location: green bay on Feb 26, 2008 at 02:29 PM
How come every time something happens and it falls on the state , i always hear how understaffed these people are, how overworked they are, how underbudgeted they are. since 9/11 the amount of security and safety has skyrocketed. It should be embarrasing to the State Patrol this was the result of a couple of semis that lost traction on a slight incline. I think the people of wisconsin should be prepared to help the Wisconsin State Patrol next time.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 23, 2008 at 05:10 PM
Yes, many should be fired, DOYLE should be one of the first, in addition to Collins and the other geniuses at the EOC and in the State Patrol Communications Bureau. But leave the rest of troopers out of it; the vast majority of them were doing their jobs/what they were instructed to do.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madison on Feb 23, 2008 at 05:43 AM
I'm going to have to agree with Green Bay on this. Why would the WSP apologize and embrace the statements people have been making if they didn't screw up? I have to say I'm quite surprised I haven't heard the best of all... Well, we're human too!

Posted by: TIM Location: green bay on Feb 22, 2008 at 08:29 PM
Thank you for bringing that to my attention Anonymous, however if I'm not mistaken i think the communications and commanding officers are still part of the wisconsin state patrol.

Posted by: Beth Location: Madison on Feb 22, 2008 at 06:14 PM
If Collins wasn't Doyle's friend and former employee he would of been fired. If this was a private business alot of people would of been fired. Did they think 100's of people were calling 911 for the fun of it. Doyle needs to fire alot of people! 1000's of cars stranded on the interstate for hours and no State Patrol officers noticed. If they didn't notice it they should be fired. They were not doing their jobs.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 22, 2008 at 06:02 PM
Tim: Try reading the report...troopers out in the mess were radioing it in...it was the communications and commanding officers in their cozy offices that decided not to act sooner.

Posted by: TIM Location: green bay on Feb 22, 2008 at 02:00 PM
the state patrol is as useless as one can get.They have weigh stations not far from where this happened, one might think that after not seeing trafffic for a period of time they would get out of the scale where they are doing nothing and check on traffic and people to see why no vehicles are moving in 1 direction.

Posted by: Perspective Location: Madison on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:28 PM
The State Patrol has been underbudgeted for years. Doyle should be apologizing to THEM. I agree that spending up to 11 hours on the interstate was awful and thankfully no one was seriously injured or died...That's one day out of our lives. What about our Troops in Afghanistan or Iraq? Be thankful you had only ONE awful day and at the end of it you were able to tell your story. The report is out, Doyle spoke, Now get over it.

Posted by: Tony Location: Mazo on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:08 PM
How about if people start to listen to local radio! They were telling people all day to stay OFF the roads. Why is it the governments problem that people are ignorant? People would have been better off staying where they were and leaving in the morning. If you are to stupid to heed the warnings, you deserve what you get!

Posted by: Kristin Location: Madison on Feb 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Ann from madison and Jon from marshall; maybe you should be FIRED from your job. You are the worst of the worst complainers. SNOW HAPPENS. DEAL WITH IT. The State Patrol can use this as a learning tool for the next time this happens! They were doing the best job they could do! Next time they will do an even better job!

Posted by: Laurie Location: Oregon on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:26 AM
My biggest question is what were all these idiots doing out traveling on said day? Every news channel said officials say STAY OFF THE ROADS!!! I didn't feel one bit sorry for the dumb boxes that were stuck in this. Had they stayed home it wouldn't have been an issue.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:16 AM
Its really to bad people have to blame others for the situations they put them selves in. MAN UP!

Posted by: Resident Location: Wisconsin on Feb 22, 2008 at 06:54 AM
First, the critism of some drivers having used this road this day is partially unfounded. If someone driving up from IL would have been unaware of what they were driving into, how could they have avoided it? (Especially if they would have been driving from far distances through IL & not have had access to news/weather reports.] Keep in mind that in heading north/west on I-94/39 at the point of the accident, most of the people hung up in this debacle would not have had access to information about a storm that was not in IL at the time. They drove into hell here. Second, the report yet leaves room for further exploration. Clearly someone in District 1 State Patrol Headquarters messed up unbelievably badly, & for the Governor to suggest that no head(s) will roll is premature. That office--down where the incident was unfolding--needs to be put under an unyielding microscope to find out what the hell they were thinking that day? And the State EOC maybe shutting down that day-common?

Posted by: C Location: Madison on Feb 22, 2008 at 03:26 AM
This thread is getting out of control. Give the poor troopers a break already :) They work out of a car all day or night, and have to sit alongside the highway assisting anything that occurs. They are from what I know more courteous and helpful than any small town you'll ever find. So what if they had a communications problem, they are overloaded with communications equipment already. You don't just pass blame like that, I'm sorry but it's not going to fly with us. If they are disorganized then it's not the fault of overworked employees with poor leadership. They don't even have decent vehicles, or backup, or anything for that kind of weather. The road closed itself, they had no time to react. Lots of snow plow timing would have been key, or maybe helped. No one got hurt, just delayed a bit, and that means the state patrol still did everything right. If they didnt have the manpower it's a leadership problem, to much leadership.

Posted by: Not a Trooper Location: Sun Prairie on Feb 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Madison Resident: Do you even know all of what the State Patrol even does? Sheriff's departments want nothing to do with commercial, emergency vehicle, or bus inspections, nor are any of them equipped to handle such duties. Milwaukee is the only county in WI that tries to handle their highways without the State Patrol, but even they were about to cry uncle last year, so the Mil. Co. Sheriff's Dept. could focus more on crime rather than traffic duty. Mike in Sun Prairie is correct, the State Patrol is badly undermanned. It is the 3rd smallest in the US (only Alaska & South Dakota are smaller police forces). But change needs to happen at the top (referring to Collins) esp. since it is now obvious he was lying to our faces by originally claiming they knew nothing until 4pm. He still needs to wipe that silly smirk off his face.

Posted by: mike Location: Sun Prairie on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:56 PM
The State Patrol is badly undermanned and has been for a long time (by the way, I don't even know any troopers) The Interstate from Beloit to north of Madison needs more intense patrolling..rarely see a Trooper or a Deputy and no one knows what Madison PD is doing. Add essentially horrible driving "skills"..including truck drivers..10 over the limit at the least and a little snow and viola'...emergency services that are already dealing with wrecks throughout the area are overwhelmed. With a 660 million dollar state budget shortfall (at least) I don't see anything changing. Maybe a sacrificial lamb or two...but if I was Gen. Dunbar I would really watch the speed....By the way, in the snowy areas of California trucks carry chains just for these snow storms or they are ordered off the highway....

Posted by: Jon Location: Marshall on Feb 21, 2008 at 04:16 PM
We pay a lot of tax dollars for people who are suppose to be able to handle crisis such as this. A State Patrol OIC doesn't understand the serverity of the situation? No Captain or higher working the Command Center, a DOT employee who leaves the Command Post at 5:15pm, State Patrol Inspectors at training at Ho-Chuck, Supt. Collins at who knows where. "WE don't shut the Interstae down" ? They should all be fired including those at the State's EOC Center and DOT Center. A total Disgrace!!!!!

Posted by: Madison Location: Resident on Feb 21, 2008 at 03:33 PM
The Wisconsin State Patrol is a joke, perhaps it should be abolished and the county sheriff's should take over their duties. The State Patrol is incompetent

Posted by: Marshall Location: Madison on Feb 21, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Everyone needs to gte over it! It is over and done and this is noth the first time that this has happened and will not be the last. This is a chance that anyone takes when getting on the interstate. As far as people complaining about WARNINGS**all I have to say is did you not turn on a tv or radio up to 3 days prior to this storm coming through. Buisnesses were closed and they were saying this on radios and tvs all over. I think that if you were stupid enough to get out on the road you deserved to sit there and maybe now you will think again next time there is a snow storm out there and they say STAY HOME!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 21, 2008 at 01:35 PM
I believe that anyone who had pick up their vehicle at an impound yard because for the problems should be refunded by the state.

Posted by: David on Feb 13, 2008 at 02:39 PM
This in response to the stories arising from the 1000 cars stuck on Hwy 39 and 90. I'm glad everyone made it out OK, but the 'response time' issue is ridiculous, unless it is a medical emergency. Stop focusing on the Black cloud, stuck in a storm, and see the Silver lining. Namely, it was a storm, nobody thought the situation was going to take long to clear up on the Highway, and when our State leadership realized it was getting to be of concern they called up the services necessary to have everyone moving again. In my eyes it was timely and effective. I wouldn't want to spend a single second feeling stranded, this incident just demonstrated that Wisconsin does take care of it's own. If you think you were alone, think again. You also had all of the television audience glued to the News. Yeah News, that is where we find out updates on the current storm conditions and also "storms approaching' so we don't get stranded in them. After 24 years in the Army I'm proud but we need to congratulate ourselves at times for the things we get right, clearing that stretch of highway in a storm was planned and resourced for success.

Posted by: Christine Location: Madison on Feb 13, 2008 at 08:59 AM
There is no excuse for the SP and DOT not to know whats going on at any given time. That's why the communication is severely lacking. It seems to me that most of the accidents happen inbetween the state line and Madison. Even on beautiful sunny days the traffic backs up in that stretch. To at least have one board near Madison heading south and one board at the stateline heading north couldn't be a bad idea. That stretch seems to be filled with accidents and backups, even non weather related.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 13, 2008 at 12:28 AM
The over-the-road-boards are useless when the DOT doesn't know what's going on. Since the SP "didn't know" about anything 'til 4pm, very little traffic would have been diverted away. Plus, you never know where a good place is to locate those expensive signs, since weather issues can pop up anywhere and in multiple locations.

Posted by: Ann Location: Madison on Feb 12, 2008 at 11:31 PM
The State Patrol did NOT do everything that they could of to help everybody. Why did they wait 18 hours to call a towing company to get the 2 stuck semi's out that were blocking the road. Had they called a towing company right away this never would of happened. The State Patrol failed everybody stranded on I90. As for the idiot that said he left everyone out their on purpose because that was the best thing to do. He's got to be mentally ill to make a statement like that, of course from the way he smiled on tv about this whole situation he must been high on something. He needs to be fired!

Posted by: Marilyn Location: Madison on Feb 12, 2008 at 03:53 PM
Joe I actually agree with the rest of Mike's posting. It's very intelligent and well thought out. I never stated I wanted to move, or room with a stranger, just that I agreed with her. I agree with Mike that we had ample warning here and most of us stayed home. But traveling from outside of WI people may not have known the severity of the situation. We need boards over the road like other states telling of backups or severe weather. I also agree with Mike that our plow drivers have done a fantastic job with this record breaking snow. What got me was the first line in his comment. Do we have to judge everyone on their license plate? It is everybody! WI and IL people drive fast. WI and IL people complain. I doubt it's even confined to just these two states, I bet it's in every state. If this happened to you in IL, would it be fair for you not to comment on the situation just because you were from WI? I don't think so. This is America and people can travel wherever they want!

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 12, 2008 at 01:45 PM
Wow, what a surprise: one state's drivers complaining about the other state's drivers...haven't heard that before. Can we just lock this comment thread down since there seems to be a growing trend away from any meaningful insight to the original topic? Lately, most of these comments seem to repeat (more/less) what was said the day of and after this event took place. I'm starting to think I am reading something off of Craigslist Rants & Raves section.

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 12, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Hey Marilyn, maybe you and Kayla can move to Illinois and room together. You both think the same!!!!!!

Posted by: Marilyn Location: Madison on Feb 12, 2008 at 01:00 PM
This is to Mike and all the other Wisconsin people that blame the world's problems on the people of Illinois. Mike- there are over 140 comments and maybe 5-6 from Illinois people. The rest are from Wisconsin and complaining alot worse than the few IL comments I read. I drive I-90 everyday, and let me tell you WI people don't drive any better. You must not get around Madison Mike. 75 mph in a 55 on the beltline is a common occurance, but of course they have the almighty Wisconsin tag on their car so its magically all right for them to go 20 over. I guarantee all 2,000 cars were not from IL that were stuck. I cruise at 70 mph on I-90 and get blown off the road by fellow WI drivers that feel the need to drive 85 mph in their cars, trucks, and yes even a Cadillac Escalade. But of course, this is all fine since they are Wisconsin plated. There are bad drivers from every state, yet WI people like Mike think they are better than everyone else. I couldn't agree more with Kayla from WI postings.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madison on Feb 12, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Do NOT blame law enforcement. Put the blame where it belongs, the City and County Officials that think they are doing such a great job spending OUR Money, for our own good as they put it, without asking us for our input. Put them through Budget Counseling a few times per year. Teach them what we NEED and what is really important. When something goes wrong they are so quick to point the finger. Let's all work together to get a hold of this Problem, and find a solution NOW.

Posted by: Mike Location: Madison on Feb 11, 2008 at 10:15 PM
This is to the Illinois folk complaining that the roads weren't in perfect shape so they can drive their Cadillac Escalades 100mph in dangerous conditions. C'mon folks! It snows up here, it gets cold, and you need to take care! Further, this was well forecasted here, they did a fine job, so no excuses that you "just had no idea there was going to be a snowstorm". I think Americans have become a little to coddled and pampered, expecting the government or whomever to help them out of their messes. Take a look at the catastrophe in China to get a clue of how difficult it could be - 150,000 people stranded -for weeks! Finally, as far as plowing the roads, consider that this has been a record breaking winter, with very cold temps (like today), and the snow plow folks have been doing a SPECTACULAR job clearing the streets, while working almost non-stop with no breaks since December.

Posted by: George M Location: Cottage Grove on Feb 11, 2008 at 09:56 PM
Where's the communications connection from emergency management to broadcasters, especially public radio? Couldn't officials have been communicating updates on the status of the situation via public radio? Or to 911 call operators? Seems to me a massive disconnect here.

Posted by: WESLEY Location: IL on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:22 PM
I WAS STOPPED ON I-90 FOR A TOTAL OF 13 1/2 HOURS. WHEN I CALLED WISCONSIN STATE PATROL AFTER BEING STOPPED FOR MANY HOURS I GOT NOTHING BUT SMART MOUTHED COMMENTS FROM THE MAN ON THE OTHER END. NOT VERY PROFESSIONAL! THOUGH I SHOULD NOT HAV BEEN THERE , NO THANKX TO LACK OF INFO EARLIER IN THE DAY WEDNESDAY THE SITUATION WAS NOT HANDLED WELL. I EVEN SUGGESTED PLOWING OUT THE U TURN ABOUTS TO GET TRAFFIC MOVING BACK THE OTHER WAY(SOUTH) BUT THAT FELL ON DEF EARS TOO. I HEARD A AM RADIO STATION TALKING ABOUT HOW WE DONT KNOW HOW TO PLOW ROADS IN ILLINOIS WELL... WISCONSINS CREWS AND THIER LEADERSHIP SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT HOW THEY CALL THE SHOTS BECAUSE SOMEONE(S) REALLY DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS ONE!

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 11, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Kayla, Sara, Jim, and Rosa have some good suggetions for you.... Please read them below...

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 11, 2008 at 02:36 PM
IT ALL COMES DOWN TO DRIVER STUPIDITY....END OF STORY. IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU THERE IS GOING TO BE A FOOT OF SNOW...PERHAPS NEXT TIME YOU WILL LISTEN. NO ONE HAS ANY SYMPATHY FOR YOU AT ALL.

Posted by: Rosa Location: Madison on Feb 11, 2008 at 01:21 PM
The Police and ALL of Law Enforcement did everything they could to help everybody. Let's stop criticising here. If we did not have them things would be a lot worse. Didn't anyone ever hear of Team work. Didn't anyone ever think fo saying "Thanks" for helping us and for being there for us. Let's stop the blame Game, and be greatful for all the help we did get.

Posted by: sara Location: lake milss on Feb 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM
YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP....

Posted by: JIM Location: MADISON on Feb 11, 2008 at 04:19 AM
I'M A DISPATCHER FOR A LOCAL COMPANY THAT HAD 6 DRIVERS STUCK ON THE HIGHWAY ALL NIGHT I AGREE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF THE ROAD BUT I GUARANTEE THAT THESE DRIVERS DID NOT COMPLAIN HAVE AS BAD OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS BEING MADE BY PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT AFFECTED

Posted by: Rhonda Location: Edgerton on Feb 10, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Move on! This discussion is as constructive as the incident itself. The situation is over, you can't change the outcome, so if you know the solutions to these kinds of problems then get involved in your community and make a difference. Use your knowledge to help instead of fueling the "blame" fire. Attend government meetings and offer suggestions for problems, contact government officials and share your concerns, vote for people who are right for the issues that concern you. Everyday we all play a part of what happens in this world, sometimes we're part of the problem and sometimes we're part of the solution. As unfortunate events unfold, we all need to look at ourselves and evaluate how we contributed to the problem, but more importantly how are we going to contribute to the solution?

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 10, 2008 at 04:19 PM
Kayla, forgot to mention I was not personally attacking Sherry. She was just trying to imply that there roads are maintained better than WI roads are. I strongly disagree with that. Don't come up here in WI and tell us how great your tollway is. Don't have an ear for it. And FYI I know there is roads in WI with pothles in them. When I ride in a car I can only feel them as I drive over them, I cannot visually see them because I am a midget and cannot see over the door rail. Therefore I do not have a valid drivers license and do not care how big the potholes are!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 10, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Kayla, If you can come up with a better way to handle a 15" plus snowstorm and the possibility of the emergencies that go along with the storm, send your recommendation to Gov. Doyle and I bet he will implement the action for the next storm. And if IDOT can keep up with a snowstorm like this one then maybe in your plan of action recommend what WI can do better. Bet there will be limited options... Or better yet maybe Mr. Doyle will let you be the incident commander when the next storm hits!!! I know I wouldn't want to be no where near Dane County if that was going to happen!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: steve on Feb 10, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Why in all the offical reports are there no information about the response of fire and ems, they were there? And were there no cars patroling that area?

Posted by: Kayla Location: Wisconsin on Feb 10, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Joe, I could not agree with you more that people need to stay off the roads when it was warned hazerdous. I, by the way, did stay home both of those days becasue of the weather. There was obviously a breakdown in communication. I realize the emergency workers did the best they could do under the circumstances. I applaud their efforts. However, there was quite a big delay in getting help to people. Your right, there were people with all different needs and not all 2,000 cars could receive individual attention. I did not like your personal attack on Sherry, just because she was from IL. All she said was she was stuck on I-90 for 10 hours and bless the tollway. A 10 line comment. She mentioned nothing regarding lack of help or any of that, just that she was stuck. I am smart enough to stay off the roads when it's bad, Joe. The thing I couldn't figure out if why you singled out Sherry for a 10 line comment, when many WI residents are ripping into the handling of the situation far worse.

Posted by: Dane Location: County on Feb 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM
To Joe in Richmond, their were not 800 stranded cars, their were 1000's. The back up started at 11am but the State Patrol said that they didn't know about it until 4pm. The State Patrol was not doing its job if it didn't know about it until 4pm. They they all sitting in coffee shops eating donuts? They sure weren't out on the roads. Hundreds of people called 911 for help, what happened to all those calls? Govenor Doyle knew this storm was coming but made he plans for it! Governor Doyle the buck stops with YOU! You failed all these people! Your people weren't doing their jobs! God help us all if you are in charge if their is ever a terrorist attack, we would all die waiting for you to do something! Get Doyle out of office, he can't even manage a snowstorm.

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 10, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Kayla,What does Iowa And Missouri have to do with a snowstorm in Wisconsin? This is not about a detour or being stranded on the I-system. The fact of the matter is people like you and Sherry must not own a television or radio at home. People were warned to stay off the roads due to the possibility of hazardous conditions. I understand that there are people who have obligations they are committed to and have no choice but to drive. In the event they do get caught in a situation like this they need to remember emergency personel are doing the best they can with the conditions they have to work with.Do the math... 800 motorists stranded/approx. 25-40 emergency workers on duty= That means each emergency worker is resonsible for 20 stranded motorists. Can you effectively manage 20 people that all have different and possibly special needs? Probably not because you are not even smart enought to stay off the roads when bad weather strikes! Illinois has plenty of room for people like you!

Posted by: Kayla Location: Wisconsin on Feb 9, 2008 at 07:21 PM
This message is for Joe. Joe is the prime example of a typial arrogant Wisconsinite. At least IDOT is constantly working to keep the tollway clear. POTHOLES?? Have you taken a drive, Joe? The potholes DO NOT stop at the Illinois line. Potholes line every street in the midwest this time of year. It sounds like Joe is the one complaining and might need to get a clue. If all the Illinois people stayed "south of the border", our states tourism would go under. So please Joe, quit your whining and be happy that everyone can enjoy this "fantastic and high taxed" state of Wisconsin that we all enjoy. If you hate the tollway so much, then STAY OFF IT and quit your complaining like you told Sherry to do on WI roads. Take a 10 hour detour through Iowa and Missouri if you so choose. But please, leave your biases for another time. There were plenty of other commments written by Wisconsin people that echoed the same sentiment, but of course, Wisconsin people are better than everyone else, right Joe?

Posted by: Joe Location: Richwood on Feb 9, 2008 at 06:18 PM
This message is for Sherry from West Dundee. You can bless your toll system and praise it all you want. At least our roadways don't have potholes the size of a quarry. If you don't like traveling up in our neck of the woods here is a suggestion for you........ Stay south of the border so we don't have to listen to all you whiners from Illinois complaining about our roads and how bad they are. Oh and by the wayjust in case you didn't look out your window while you were stranded on I-90....That was snow that was falling not rain!!!!!!!!!!! Vehicles do tend to have less traction when that whits stuff falls. Get a clue!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Location: Dells on Feb 9, 2008 at 03:29 PM
These are the same people who didn,t slow down traffic last fall in a major fog causing death and a huge pile up in Madison.Why would you expect anything else.If they couldn,t figure they had a full scale blizzard the people at the top should get replaced.Nothing will happen thou it,s a poorly run bunch of overpaid people in new cars sitting along the roadside.I,ve suggested before to have them communicate with radio stations but the only updates I ever hear are accidents on the beltway.Since the Interstate is so busy why don,t radio stations give updates? Joe jbas04@juno.com

Posted by: Sandy Location: Madison on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM
DO WE HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS??? IT WAS 3 DAYS AGO. GET OVER IT! Just remember this next year when the weather forecasters and police say STAY OFF THE ROADS!!

Posted by: Betty Location: Rock Co on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM
You know people very seldom use common sense and stay home. Jobs force people to get out in the weather to not get written up or fired. Medical fields usually never close and someone has to be there to work. As for the truckers, did you think to dispatch in that you were stuck and advice dispatcher to notify media so other travelers could be advised. If that would have been done and travelers told NOT to go on Interstate then none of this would have happened. I feel bad for everyone that had to be stuck out there. Watching in disbelief that help wasnt sent out sooner. As for clearing the roads, Rock County never clears the roads as good as other counties. It doesnt matter if a main road or a city street. Take a drive thru Evansville sometime or travel Hwy 14 to Madison. You can tell exactly where the county line starts for Dane and ends for Rock.

Posted by: rob Location: jefferson on Feb 9, 2008 at 11:05 AM
First and formost people were told not to travel unless absolutely neccessary. people need to be prepared for this sort of thing especially when they knew for a couple of days that it was coming. If you cant make it thru on the roads how are the police going to. The plows were also doing their best to keep roads open but they were blowing shut faster than they could plow them and there are only so many police and plows out there. They cannot just multiply at an instant. I believe all agencies did their best sometimes the weather is just bad enough to overwhelm everybody and that is when it is up to the motorist to not travel unless it is an emergency.

Posted by: Kathy Location: Madison, WI on Feb 9, 2008 at 07:32 AM
I was not stranded, and I realize it must have been awful.Did anyone survey all the stranded motorist to find out why it was ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for them to be on the roads. At 6:45 AM, NBC15 was telling people to stay off the roads that is why I did not go to work, yet your newscaster was on the road. I believe he drove to Janesville and back to let us know it was snowing in Janesville.Perhaps employers need to start closing businesses, so employees do not feel they have to go to work in those conditions.Those that were stranded should be grateful that they were only in their car for hours, and not in tornado's as the people in the south were. People need to quit being "Martyrs", and pay attention to the same officials that they are now blaming.

Posted by: Chris Location: WI Driver on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Why cann't Rock and Dane counties start ice and snow removal before accidents or problems like this? They seem to never start work till at least several accidents happen. Maybe these counties are useing the FEDERALLY issued money on county roads and not on the State roads like they are suppose to!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tammy Location: Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM
This makes me IRRATE, instead of being so ungrateful and blaming others for your carelessness, Why don't you try saying thank-you to everyone who went out of their way to help you. You should have listened to the weather and stayed off the road, so you were a little uncomfortable for a while, at least you had a "roof" over your head unlike our many homeless people that had to be out in the storm. If people keep B****n all the time when other people do try to help, then maybe the next disaster that comes along no one will want to help. when you have 2000 vehicles and a handful of Law officers how are you suppose to handle this situation in a timely manner. They also have other jobs within the city to do. We are adults,take responsibility for your actions and quit playing the blame game. When they say they are shutting down government jobs and the numerous schools that were closed I would think that should be enough warning. Take this as a lesson learned and quit complaining.

Posted by: anoyed with the whinners Location: wisconsin on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM
People should consider listening to those people who know about this stuff. When they tell you that travel should be avoided AVOID it. Do you think they canncel school for there health!!!!!! There were over 2000 motorists stranded does every body think that there were over 2000 people comming to help them at once? I am a truck driver and was stranded in a massive snow storm in Chicago 2 yrs ago. It took over 12 hours to get from Whitting Indiana(Gary area) to my terminal north of Madison. All I can say to these whinny people is stuff like this happens it is a fact of life, deal with it. Rescue people can only do so much with what they have. It was just as bad for them as it was for you. You say I was stuck in my car for 12 hours, they say I had to trapse around in 18 inches of for 12 hours outside in the cold and bring supplies to people who can't take some responsibleities and GROW UP!! It is very frustrating to see people who just blame others for there bad judgement.

Posted by: Vicki on Feb 8, 2008 at 08:12 PM
I believe it was handled wrong. Those people should never have been stranded that long. Someone could have placed warnings on the radio or tv stations,had police turn people away, get your county and local law enforcement working together- plows sent to free roadways. Someone making decisions to stop this many motorist from getting stranded. Just because the schools close, and some businesses close, the world just doesn't stop. There are some us that have to go work. I for one am glad that Gov. Doyle is looking into this. It should have never reached the extent that it did.

Posted by: Sherry Location: West Dundee IL on Feb 8, 2008 at 08:10 PM
We were stuck on 90 for 10 hours Wednesday. I just say BLESS THE ILLINOIS TOLLWAY SYSTEM.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:54 PM
Casey, you of all people should know that the state patrol was tied up with accidents and run offs. Not to mention the fact that many emergency vehicles and patrol cars couldn't get through the snow either. They didn't drop the ball if anyone dropped any balls it was our state government by not having the resources in place to support them. I am surprised at your post knowing what you do for a living. Are you saying that the men and women at state patrol weren't trying to help? They did everything they could do with what they had and it sucks that this happened but I don't think any one entity is to blame. It was more of a "perfect storm" situation.

Posted by: Anne Location: Madison on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:31 PM
The blame game is very annoying. There should be more focus and consideration for all of those law enforcement officers who spent so much time and effort getting it untangled. It was a unique situation. Monday quarterbacking is easy. In the heat of the moment, especially with all of the others demands that was being made as a result of weather related accidents, it may have been the best decision, based on the information available. With all of the accidents occurring, there would have been few if any law enforcement officers available to monitor a situation where no accident had occurred. Obviously, many of the motorists ignored the warnings. Must we always focus on laying blame when something goes wrong? Decisions were made that probably made the best sense at the time. It didn't work out and should provide lessons for future use. As to shutting down I90, if someone had been killed as a result of detours, there would be an uproar. Sometimes there aren't good choices.

Posted by: Casey Location: Edgerton on Feb 8, 2008 at 05:08 PM
I was stuck from Edgerton for 13.5 hours. I left home at 1220 go go to work at the Dane County 911 Center. By 3pm, I had seen 3 Troopers drive by in the East bound lanes, as I was West bound...so they knew before 4pm there was a back up. NO relief came to help at all. I had 2 firefighters from Deerfield Fire check on me, by request of my co-workers. Otherwise, the entire time I was up there no one on snowmobiles stopped to ask any one for help, offer food or water. They were supposed to, but all it was was a joyride. As for the 911 center, they get all the credit, they are the true hard workers of the deal. They must have fielded hundreds of calls from angry drivers and all they could tell them was....sorry, we dont know. Wisc. State Patrol handles all incidents and has jusidiction. They dropped the ball twice in 1 month, the foggy crash and this. They are very disapointing. There was no reason it took so long!!!! 13.5 hours on the i, and never father tahn 7 miles from home.

Posted by: Sara Location: Madison on Feb 8, 2008 at 05:08 PM
It's surprising to me that so many people are failing to take responsibility for their own bad judgment. Instead it's everyone else's fault that they were stuck on the road for 10 hours with no gas, no food, no water... Has no one heard of having a winter survival kit in the car for situations like this or, at the VERY least, making sure you have a FULL tank of gas if you absolutely MUST go out in questionable weather? And then to have this sense of entitlement and expect to be rescued when you got yourself in the situation by going out in the first place? I'm sorry- it's not the system that failed, it was the lack of common sense that is to blame for this mess.

Posted by: M on Feb 8, 2008 at 04:54 PM
(continued) We were under your same "warnings" for our county...we had less than 4 inches of snow. School was called off, businesses closed, for what?? Not all employees have the option of a "snow day" or emergency day. Vacation? Not everyone gets that either! As was stated before: 1) the DMV website did not mention that the road was closed/impassable. 2) roads leading up to this point were fine! 3) Why were the plows not out trying to k