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VIDEO REPORT: Scrap Metal Thieves Costing City Tens of Thousands of Dollars

UPDATED: Monday, August 13, 2012 --- 11:15 p.m.

Madison city staff expect scrap metal thieves to strike while UW-Madison students move to new leases.

This week many apartment and housing terms expire ahead of the new semester. Students discard old furniture and electronics on the street, often stolen before the city can come and recycle.

"What we have are scavengers out there with pickup trucks and in some cases organized with multiple pickup trucks roaming through the whole area picking up scrap metal and taking it for recycling," said George Dreckmann, recycling coordinator for the City of Madison.

Dreckmann says during the moving week, his crew usually hauls more than 700 tons of extra material. As soon as items are placed along the street, they belong to the city, which sells the materials to recycling processors, trusted to remove mercury, lead, and other elements safely.

As copper prices remain high, surging prices for other scrap is encouraging streetside theft.

"The price for ferrous metals, like iron and steel have gone up as well, so that's where we're really seeing an increase," said Dreckmann.

The city and school are hosting e-cycling drop-offs, including on Brooks St. this week on campus. Click here for more information.

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POSTED: Monday, February 6, 2012 --- 6:20 p.m.

Thieves are using a new method to cash in on scrap metal and in the long run it's really costing all of us, because the city of Madison says it's losing tens of thousands of dollars.

It's supposed to be a win win. The city takes the time and effort to pick up big items from your curb and they get to cash in on the scrap metal.

Recycling coordinator George Dreckmann says, "The revenue goes right into the city budget."

Or at least it's supposed to.

These days, more and more, that cash is finding it's way into the pockets of thieves.

When the economy started tanking scrap metal thefts became a big problem. Copper was often the target.

But thanks to a jump in the price of steal and easy access, things like wash machines are now disappearing off the curb.

You might be surprised the amount of money the city can get for the scrap metal. And when they're not getting that cash they say it's a problem.

Dreckmann says, "It's over 75-thousand dollars a year at a minimum in lost revenue. That's enough to pay the salaries of two of our employees so it does have an impact on taxpayers."

Homeowners are purchasing 35-dollar-stickers to guarantee city pick up. In other words they're wasting their money if a thief swipes it first.

Dreckmann says, "They're upset because they didn't get the service they paid for."

The thieves are organized. Dreckmann says often people will go out in a scout car or on a bike or moped, writing down where they see scrap metal. Then a pickup truck comes by to scoop it up.

Dreckmann says, "When it's put out at the curb it's assumed to be for city collection and becomes property of the city."

They're mad they are losing cash but city staff say it's also a pollution concern.

When they drop the stuff off they pay a contractor to remove things like mercury switches and freon.

Dreckmann says, "We know the scavengers aren't doing those things and it ends up in the environment."

Madison Police Captain Jim Wheeler says they've made their officers aware of the scrap metal scavengers.

When it comes to scrap metal theft, they've had enough.

Wheeler says, "It also goes with our issues of drug use because a lot of people are stealing just to get easy cash to buy drugs."

To help stop it the city wants to develop an electronic monitoring system. They say it would be very similar to the one they just passed for pawn and second hand shops.

All scrap metal purchasers would keep electronic record of their customers on one database. It would be a database the city would also be plugged in to.

At Resource Solutions Corp. they installed an electronic system and say it's made a huge difference in catching the thieves that show up. They say by word of mouth it's also making sure others don't even try selling stolen metal at their place.

Lance Hahn says, "Even the expense of the scanner, which was a very expensive piece of equipment (was worth it). We now have a very good idea of what people are bringing in here."

By state law all scrap metal buyers must keep these records, but Madison police now say they want in and want everyone on a system they can be hooked in to.

Wheeler says, "If we can identify those patterns right away we can probably solve these crimes quicker."

Frustrated city staff say it's worth a shot.

Dreckmann says, "I certainly think it would help."

Dreckmann says since 2009 the amount of scrap metal the city is picking up is down over 750 tons.

And as for the integrated electronic monitoring the police department mentioned, this story will be the first many are hearing of it because it's such a new idea.

They say now they're waiting to hear some feedback from scrap metal purchasers.


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  • by Joe Location: Janesville on Aug 14, 2012 at 11:14 AM
    Come to Rock County. The prosecutors don't take it seriously here.
  • by scott Location: madison on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:57 AM
    so what the city is saying is if my lawnmower runs out of gas at the end of the drive way and i go to get more gas the city can take it ? has any one considered that the cit might be wrong and is just seeing the money that they can make ???
  • by Jjc Location: madtown on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:52 AM
    Mr Wheeler don't tell us the city is recycling those metal items that we see with our own eyes being tossed in the trash truck. That load goes to the Dane county landfill and gets burried. We try to keep items out of the landfill and maybe make a buck too and you compair us to thieves and drug addicts?! Our vehicles polute but you vehicle doesn't?! I will tell you something else you pompous ignorant buffoon, many of us are the most concerned environmentalists you could ever meet. Wow are you not cut out for your job!
  • by K Location: Location on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:51 AM
    My husband does remodeling, plumbing, and electrical. He has alot of scrap that he brings home. If we put it by the curb, instead of scrappers just taking it. They actually come to the door and ask if it's okay if they take it. Of course we always say yes. But if your like the one guy who pulled all the way into our driveway and took scrap near the house---your a thief!!!
  • by pete Location: mad town on Feb 8, 2012 at 09:10 PM
    I do some scraping and pick up bikes and other stuff by dumpsters never go in a recycling container and don't think of myself as a thief. I've been talked to by police and told the way I do it is Acceptable just no going in any type of recycling container. If this has changed I think they should make the law well known before calling upstanding citizens thieves. I also will not take anything from a curbside that hasa a sticker this is city prop. as I understand it.
  • by Rick Location: Madison on Feb 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM
    I have a hard time with the City crying wolf over people taking something they are already stealing from the public. You already pick up our garbage and recycling for money, and you make profit off it. Then you want $35 to pick something up you will then make more profit off of. Now your letting the police know to watch out for it...like that doesn't cost us money and possibly have police out of position to do their real job, like keep the public safe from real criminals. Oh wait they can't arrest all of the politicians, or City goverment for their misuse of of our tax paying money. If the City would actually make the employees work for their money, instead of letting the employees line their trucks up at some park for break/lunch. How long do they get to drive before their breaks start? Does fuel cost money?....if you would look at those cost, and do something about it....maybe you could pick that stuff up for free and save the tax payers some money. Thats too simple.
  • by andy Location: madison on Feb 7, 2012 at 08:56 AM
    If somebody pays for a sticker, then fine, don't take it off the curb. But if it's just a pile of junk, why is it the cities to make money off of? Isn't it public domain once it hit's the curb? Not in Madison I guess. What makes the city think they are the only ones entitles to junk on the curb?
  • by Joey Location: Madison on Feb 7, 2012 at 07:39 AM
    Interesting news clip for a couple reasons. The whole notion that the city is trying to recycle metal in the first place at the expense of city taxpayers when people do it at no cost should be the real highlight. It sounds like the city doesn't make money on the program, and blames it on people stealing metal off of curbs. This is because there's an actual market out there for people to take their appliances in, they don't have to pay a city sticker fee, and actually get money back for their appliance. Why should taxpayers pay city employees to recycle metal when their our hundreds of people that will drive around the city and do it for free?
  • by Heather Location: Madison on Feb 7, 2012 at 07:31 AM
    I'm sorry but if there are appliancies on the curb and there is no sticker on it it is fair game. Open your eyes Madison. More homeowners are resorting to Craigslist to post free for the taking on their junk metal so they don't have to pay the big item fee. This is some peoples means of paying their bills. At least they are working! Get over your shortfall on your city budget and stop your complaining.
  • by scott Location: madison-west on Feb 7, 2012 at 05:10 AM
    Lol I dont see a problem !! The city is just ticked because they are not getting the money . I know all about scraping and so does the city . did you know when you pay to recycle cans your paying the city and the city is getting payed buy the recycling plant !!! lol like i said the city is just ticked because there missing out on $$$ that is why i think this is B.S
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