Zimmermann/Marino Murders: Police Say No Apparent Links

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Reporter: Evrod Cassimy
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911 Call 5-16-08

Minutes Before Murder 5-8-08

Marino's Father Speaks Out 05-08-09

Sketches on State Street 3-16-08

NEW: Marino Murder Update 3-10-08

Marino's Stepmother Speaks 2-13-08

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UPDATED Sunday, May 18 -- 12:12pm

Madison's Police Chief says that it does not appear that the Joel Marino and Brittany Zimmermann murder cases are linked.

Read the official release from the MPD website below.

Based on current investigative information, the homicides of Joel Marino and Brittany Zimmermann do not appear to be connected. However, we cannot totally rule out any connection between the cases based in part on the fact that there are similarities, such as:

-Both Victims were murdered inside their homes during daylight hours.
-Both crimes took place within a reasonably close geographic area.
-There was nothing to suggest that either victim had enemies or were at risk due to their lifestyles.

No further information will be released at this time.

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Posted Friday, May 16 --- 9:00pm

The 911 Center has released several calls in the Joel Marino Murder Investigation.

Marino was killed January 28th. He was found in an alley near his home near St. Mary's Hospital.

A man told the "Isthmus" he saw a suspect in the case on March 21rst walking on Park Street. It was the same man he saw the day Marino was murdered.

The caller told the "Isthmus" he didn't believe police responded quick enough.

Friday, 911 released the call, which he made to the non-emergency police number. The caller never identifies which murder investigation or the name of the victim. Here's his call -- courtesy of the Wisconsin State Journal.

Caller: There's two guys walking up there and one's got like that coat on, and I was the person that saw them the first day.
Operator: OK. And you think that he's related to the investigation?
Caller: Well he might be. I was the witness that gave the description, and he just came by my house here.
Operator: OK. I'll have someone check the area.
Caller: Thanks.
Operator: You're welcome.

Police say the Dispatcher received his call at 4:58 p.m. and two squad cars arrived in the area within minutes. A Madison Police detective subsequently followed up with the witness about what had been observed.

We did receive other 911 calls in relation to the Marino murder, but because of their graphic nature we chose not to air them.

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UPDATED Thursday, May 15 --- 5:10pm

Press Release from Madison Police Department:

Madison Police Chief Noble Wray, and Assistant Chief Randy Gaber have invited Lou Marino to sit down with them at Chief Wray's office next Tuesday, May 20, 2008. The Chiefs would like to discuss concerns Mr. Marino has made public about the investigation into his son's tragic death. The Chiefs would also like to clarify with Mr. Marino some of the statements Mr. Marino has made reference the case.

The Madison Police Department is dedicated to continuing a meaningful dialog with Lou Marino, and his family, in an effort to find the person/persons responsible for Joel's homicide, while keeping Mr. Marino, and his family, informed of the investigation.

It is important to note that during the course of the investigation the Madison Police Department South District Command Staff has had numerous contacts with the Marino family in order to maintain open lines of communication.

In addition to the case detective, another liaison detective was assigned to the family. He met with the family, at their home, on the day of the homicide. He also attended Joel's funeral visitation. The detective spoke with Mr. Marino, 2-3 times, during the first couple of weeks, after the homicide. He also met with Joel's brother, Dominic, twice and has made numerous contacts with Joel's family friends. The detective also introduced the Marino's to the primary case detective, Matt Misener. Case Detective Misener also had contact with Mr. Marino at least once a week, if not more, as he called Mr. Marino back every time Mr. Marino called, with a question or idea.

In addition to the countless leads and tips that the case detective was already pursuing, he also took time to investigate several possible motives and suspects suggested by Mr. Marino, including investigating the following:

· The suspect was from a construction company that was working in the area.
· The suspect was connected to a theft of expensive medical equipment from a local hospital.
· The suspect was a city employee who was involved in the lawsuit in which his son was suing the City of Madison regarding a sewer construction project.
· The suspect was an individual seen in a tavern located in another part of the city.

None of the leads suggested by Mr. Marino resulted in a suspect being identified.

The detectives have made themselves available to the Marino's, at all times, and they have been completely responsive to their calls and ideas for leads.

In all cases, the case detective either informed Mr. Marino that those leads were already being pursued, or the lead detective would allocate more resources to follow up on the information given to him by Mr. Marino.

South District Captain Jim Wheeler has met with Mr. Marino, in person, twice. Once, he met him at his place of business, and the other time, he met with Mr. and Mrs. Marino, at their home, along with a representative of the District Attorney's Office and representatives of the Dane County Victim/Witness Unit. This meeting lasted over two hours, as the Marino's' questions were addressed, and answered, as appropriate, and they were given full explanations of procedures and reasons for those procedures, in regard to the integrity of the case. They were provided with phone numbers for South District Commanders and the Assistant District Attorney, with an offer to call at anytime. They were also invited to visit the South District, to see the volume of work and effort that was being completed by the detectives. To date, they have not taken Captain Wheeler up on this offer.

So far in the Joel Marino homicide investigation Madison Police personnel have:

· Sought and received information from various law enforcement agencies within the state of Wisconsin and have even reached out to departments in the State of Texas.
· Worked very closely with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
· Received, and acted on, numerous tips from other law enforcement agencies.
· Contacted over 800 individuals and have developed over 80 potential suspects who have so far been cleared.
· Proactively developed suspects and checked them out.
· Generated fliers that MPD officers, and those close to Joel, posted around the crime scene and the downtown.
· Worked with Adams Outdoor Advertising in getting information about the crime up on a billboard.
· Worked with UW-Madison communications staff in getting information about Joel's murder up on the UW-Madison's website.
· Posted a full page of information in the local newspaper seeking tips.
· Contrary to some media reports, South District Captain Jim Wheeler has confirmed Joel's grandmother was contacted immediately after the crime, and she provided a detailed statement.
· Captain Wheeler has also followed up on an inaccurate media report stating officers were not dispatched to a reported sighting of a possible suspect on March 21, 2008. Dispatch records show that officers were sent within minutes of the call, but they were unable to find the subject seen by a caller. A Madison Police detective subsequently followed up with the witness about what had been observed.

Captain Wheeler has made the following statement:
"I want to let you know that we are sensitive and understanding of the Marino family and their frustration of trying to find justice in identifying and locating their son's senseless murderer. The Department is totally committed to solving this homicide for various obvious reasons to include helping to obtain closure for the family and friends of Joel Marino and also to take a dangerous person off the streets in our community. As a Commanding officer in the South district where this tragedy occurred, I have full faith and confidence in the abilities not only of the lead detective on this case but also to the women and men who have dedicated themselves to finding the perpetrator of this homicide."

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UPDATE Posted Friday, May 9 --- 2:55pm

Update on Joel Marino Homicide
South District Commander Updates Investigation

First, I want to let you know that we are sensitive and understanding of the Marino family and their frustration of trying to find justice in identifying and locating their son's senseless murderer. The Department is totally committed to solving this homicide for various obvious reasons to include helping to obtain closure for the family and friends of Joel Marino and also to take a dangerous person off the streets in our community.

As a Commanding officer in the South district where this tragedy occurred, I have full faith and confidence in the abilities not only of the lead detective on this case but also to the women and men who have dedicated themselves to finding the perpetrator of this homicide.

So far our detectives have:
Have sought and received information from various law enforcement agencies within the state of Wisconsin and have even reached out to departments in the State of Texas

We have also worked very closely with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab and the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Many other agencies have also contacted the Madison Police Department to give us tips, which have been acted on.

We have contacted over 800 individuals and have developed over 80 potential suspects who have so far been cleared.

We are proactively developing suspects and checking them out as the investigation continues.

We have generated fliers that officers and those close to Joel have posted around the crime scene and the downtown.

We have worked with Adams Outdoor Advertising in getting information about the crime up on a billboard.

We have worked with UW-Madison communications staff in getting information about Joel's murder up on the UW-Madison's website.

We have posted a full page of information in the local newspaper seeking tips.

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UPDATE Posted Thursday, May 8 --- 9:27pm

Interview with Grandma:

"By that time he said to me 'Grandma I gotta go. I gotta Grandma' he said but I'll call you right back, and he was gone," says Joel Marino's grandmother, Betty Parman.

She says she heard the killer while on the phone with Joel just moments before he was found stabbed to death in an alley just outside his home.

"But it was a (loud noise) and there were 3 of 4 of these growling sounds and all I could think of was Halloween."

Betty is the last known person to speak with Joel, information that investigators have told her to keep quiet. She's complied until now. In her first on camera interview, Betty spoke with us demanding answers from investigators.

"Because we're frustrated," says Parman. "Because we've heard things that we're very upset about and I want to see justice for Joel."

Betty and her husband, Art, light a candle in Joel's memory every night. A gold necklace containing his ashes dangles from her neck to serve as a constant reminder of what happened. Joel's last phone call was to wish her a happy 75th birthday, something she never wishes to celebrate again.

"He said 'well Happy Birthday Grandma.' And I said 'well thank you.' And he was gone."

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UPDATE Posted Thursday, May 8 --- 6:45pm

At 3:00 Thursday afternoon the parents of Joel Marino met with officials at the Attorney General's Office.

They want answers about their son's murder investigation.

As we've reported -- the parents of Joel Marino, Debbie and Lou Marino, are frustrated about the police investigation into their son's death. Joel Marino was murdered on January 28th.

His killer is still on the loose.

The Marino's had three main issues they wanted addressed.

First is that they want the Attorney General's office to take over the investigation from the Madison Police Department.

Second is they also want to know if DNA taken from their son's case matches DNA from the Zimmermann crime scene.

Thirdly, they want to know why a mass alert was not issued in Madison after Joel's murder. They also feel the MPD is not following up on leads well enough.

The Marino's say they got the answers they wanted and feel better about the investigation.

They say their next stop is to talk to Madison Police Chief Noble Wray.

They said they will not stop until justice is served.

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UPDATED: Sunday -- March 16, 2008

The search for clues continues in the Joel Marino murder case. Friends spent Sunday putting up new posters downtown--hoping a sketch released this week will trigger more information. A reward fund has climbed to more than $40,000. Friends continue to be motivated to find who's responsible for the murder of 31 year old Joel Marino.

Volunteers hit the State Street area hanging up posters with information about the suspect, a sketch, and information about the reward for clues. Police have said a backpack left at the scene by Marino's murderer was bought at a business on State Street and police also say the suspect is believed to live in or associate with the State Street area. The sketch of the suspect was released earlier this week and police say it did spur tips. Meantime, friends and family are doing everything they can to get the sketch out to the community. "I think our hope is to try to get the picture out there that was released up of the suspect and just to really start to get to educate people in the state street area in particular what this person might look like," said Marino's girlfriend, Amanda Miller.

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UPDATED: Tuesday -- March 11, 2008 -- 3:40pm

Madison police say they are getting new leads in the murder of Joel Marino.

Monday night police released a sketch of the man they believe stabbed Marino at his home in January.

The suspect is described as a white male, 21-32 years of age, approximately 5’10” to 6’2” in height. Suspect has an elongated, oval face with stubble, short sandy hair and a narrow forehead. Last seen wearing a white stocking cap with red/black trim and a motion “W” logo and a Carhart type Jacket with a hood.

Police also say the suspect purchased a backpack--found near the murder scene -- in the State Street area three days before the murder.

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UPDATED: Monday --- March 10, 2008 -- 8:45pm

Madison police released a sketch of the man they think killed Joel Marino.

The killer's described as a white man, 5'10'' to 6'2" in his 20s, with a thin build.

Police say he also was last seen wearing a tan Carhart type jacket.

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UPDATED: Monday --- March 10, 2008 -- 1:15pm

Madison Police released new details Monday in the search for Joel Marino's killer.

31 year-old Joel Marino was found stabbed in an alley near his home on January 28th. Marino was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Police are still searching for a specific suspect in the murder. Authorities were initially searching for a person of interest. That person of interest was then named a suspect in late February.

Police say all DNA evidence found on a hat, backpack and knife -- match the same person.

On the day of the homicide, investigators believe Mr. Marino was home all morning and was stabbed in his house between 1:00 p.m. and 1:20 p.m. In addition the probe indicates the suspect likely fled the Marino home and ran southbound on West Shore Drive. During his flight he discarded the white cap and Puma backpack in the West Shore neighborhood. The perpetrator was last seen near the intersection of South Park and Parr Streets.

The knife – which is believed to the murder weapon -- is described as an “OXO” brand paring knife with a four inch silver blade. (See PHOTO of knife below)

Police believe the backpack was purchased on State Street. They say the suspect may have been seen in the State Street area on Friday, January 25th in the afternoon.

Police believe the suspect MAY live in, or perhaps associates with, the State Street area. He is described as a white male, 5’10” – 6’2”, in his 20’s, with a thin build. He was last seen wearing a tan Carhardt type jacket.

The MPD is seeking assistance in identifying this man.

A reward of more than $40,000 is being offered for information.

Callers can remain anonymous and should phone Madison Crime Stoppers at 266-6014.

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UPDATED: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 -- 4:10pm

Police search for a specific suspect in the Joel Marino murder case. However, that suspect, originally a person of interest, has yet to be identified.

Marino was found stabbed in an alley near Park Street on January 28th. The 31-year-old was pronounced dead at the hospital.

Police Spokesman Joel DeSpain says the department has received a number of tips from the public.

He says several people have claimed to see the, now, suspect near the murder-scene and on State Street, three days before Marino's death.

"The detectives say they have new evidence and they're not sharing that with the public at this point," says DeSpain. "But, certainly, this is a person we've wanted to identify all the way along. This was a person seen in the area immediately after the crime. Now, the detectives believe this is the person who actually committed the crime."

Police are searching for a white man in his 20s. He's between 5'10" and 6'2" with a thin build. He has blond or light brown hair and was last seen wearing a tan Carthardt-type jacket and a white stocking cap with a red "W" on the front.

At this time, police do not have a sketch of the suspect. DeSpain says one may be made public, if more details about the suspect become available.

If you have any information, call Crime Stoppers at (608) 266-6014.

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Update Posted Tuesday, February 26, 2008 --- 10:10am

From the Madison Police Department:

Based on new evidence in the Joel Marino homicide, the Madison Police Department now believes the person of interest they were seeking is now directly involved in the murder of Joel Marino.

The Madison Police Department describes the suspect as a white male, in his twenties and possibly in his early twenties. The suspect is believed to be between 5'10" and 6'02" and may have a thin build. The suspect is also believed to have blonde or light brown hair.

This suspect was possibly seen in the State Street area on Friday, January 25th during the afternoon hours. This suspect was last seen wearing a tan Carthardt type jacket and a white stocking cap with a red motion W on the front.

Anyone with information on the possible identity of this suspect is strongly encouraged to call Crimestoppers.

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Posted Sunday, February 24 2008

"On behalf of Joel's family and friends, I want to thank all of you for coming to night. I hope that by coming here we can celebrate and remember the things we all loved about Joel," says Joel Marino's girlfriend, Amanda Miller.

Candlelight surrounded the 714 West Shore Drive home of Joel Marino Sunday night as friends and family gathered to remember a man that was taken from them almost one month ago.

"It means so much to me to see everyone here in this place. I know this house may mean something different to all of you but having spent so much time here with Joel, to me this place will always be the home he shared with me."

Coming back to the home where it all happened brought back the happy and sad times for Marino's girlfriend, but for his stepmother it it was the reality that her son would never return home.

"That makes it be I guess more real and less emotional for me you know just being here, walking into the house, it's emotional," says Joel's stepmother, Deborah Marino.

The sidewalks were lined with luminaries and a blue ribbon was tied to almost every tree to serve as a symbol for the man who cared so much for his community. And although Joel's death still remains a mystery, his life will never be forgotten.

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Updated Wednesday --- February 13, 2008 --- 6:00pm

"Honestly in my heart of hearts, I do believe this will be solved. And I don't think it will be a zillion years or anything... I really feel that in my heart," Debbie Marino says.

For the first time, the stepmother of a murdered Madison man speaks out about her son and the search for his killer.

The murder happened more than two weeks ago. The body of the 31-year-old was found in an alley near his home off of Park Street.

Joel Marino's stepmother spoke to NBC-15 for the first time on Wednesday.

Debbie Marino is confident. She believes police will find her son's killer because she believes someone out there knows something. That person just needs to come forward.

"As a parent, you always have this feeling you're going to protect your child."

But January 28th, Debbie Marino could no longer protect her son.

31-year-old Joel Marino died after being found in an alley outside of his Madison home.

Debbie says, "I don't care how old they are. You don't want them to ever ... You certainly don't want them to die in an alley ... you know, all by theirself for Christ's sake."

Debbie has helped to raise Marino since his early teenage years when she married Joel's father.

She remembers him always being social, a real go- getter.

"He was like somebody who just had to have this many things going on. And he'd have that many things going on in his life constantly. And he's been like that since high school."

NBC-15 interviewed Marino last year about a project to allow stormwater runoff into Monona Bay.

Debbie says, "I was real happy that he got psyched up about that. He was real psyched up about trying to get that cleaned up."

Debbie says the family has no idea who would kill Marino.

She says only in death did she learn how many lives he touched in his short time on earth.

Debbie says, "I think you always want to think that your child is going to grow up and be independent and a good citizen and love their work and ... when that happens, you're very surprised, let me tell you."

Debbie says she comforts others by reminding them of the good times with her son.

But she says the pain is indescribable.

"It's just how your heart feels, and you can't really describe how your heart feels."

And her tears -- unstoppable.

Debbie says, "And you just feel like all of your tears are gone... and then you'll hear a song or somebody will give you a hug or something and you think I'm not gonna cry over this, you don't even think about it and tears just start coming out."

But, Debbie says she needs to stay strong to stay focused on finding Joel's killer.

"I want to find out who that person is. I want them to be held accountable. I want them to have to go through the legal system. I hope they go to prison."

Debbie says she knows Joel is now in heaven with his biological mother. She also wants to thank everyone who's been so helpful in this case -- the reward fund has reached more than $40, 000. And, friends are planning another flier distribution and candlelight vigil in the coming weeks.

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Updated Friday --- February 8, 2008 -- 2:10pm

A $40,000 reward is being offered for information in the murder of a 31 year-old Madison man in late January.

Joel Marino was found wounded in an alley near his home.

Police say Marino may have been stabbed at his home and collapsed in the alley on his way to get help at nearby St. Mary's Hospital.

Police say the person of interest has been identified as a white male with a thin build.

If you have any information about this homicide, please call Crime Stoppers at 266-6014.

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Updated Sunday, February 3, 2008

The search for answers continues after a 31-year-old Madison man is
killed. Friends and neighbors of Joel Marino are taking steps to try and
generate clues as to who is responsible for his murder.

Laurie Kuhn lives in Marino's neighborhood. She met Marino after moving
into the area about a year and a half ago. "We knew Joel. He lived
very close to us and it's just a really nice guy and we're just
completely shocked that this happened and very sad for his family and
you know worried about our kids," explained Kuhn.

Kuhn, her husband and their two children are volunteering to hang up
posters with information about Marino's murder and the suspect. Several
others spent their Sunday afternoon doing the same. "Everybody is just
trying to push ahead, I think now that we've gotten a little bit of
closure with the services we're really motivated to just find whoever
was responsible for this," said Bryan Bazan, the Marino family spokesman.

Police have a knife, hat, and backpack they believe belong to the
killer, but there's still not enough information to make an arrest.
Friends and neighbors want answers. They want to know who is responsible
for taking the life of their friend, so they're doing everything they
can to help police find his killer. "No detail is too small, any
information, you know whether or not you think it has anything to do
with the case, that's the kind of information we need," said Bazan.

As volunteers do what they can to help solve Marino's murder, they keep
in mind the spirit of the man that's no longer a part of their
neighborhood and community. "We liked to call him 'Genuine Joel', he
was probably one of the most genuine persons you would have ever met. I
know he would have been one of the first ones here ready to hand out
fliers if this would've happened to someone else, even if it was someone
he didn't know," explained Bazan.

"Really nice guy and it's just terrible that this happened... I just
still can't believe it," said Kuhn.

Police still need tips to help them solve this crime. If you have any
information please call Crime Stoppers at 266-6014.

A reward fund has been set up for tips leading to the arrest and
conviction of those responsible for the murder. As of Sunday there was
more than $35,000 in the fund.

Joel Marino Reward Fund
McFarland State Bank
5990 Hwy. 51 Box 7
McFarland, WI 53558

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Updated Friday --- February 1, 2008 -- 12:20pm

Madison Police released an update Friday on the Marino case, the man who was found stabbed to death in an alley near Park Street.

31 year-old Joel Marino was found wounded in an alley near his home earlier this week.

Police say the person of interest has been identified as a white male with a thin build.

A photo was also released of a jacket worn by the person of interest. The jacket in the photo is not the actual jacket worn by the person of interest, but one that may look similar. Witnesses think the jacket may have had a hood attached to it as well.

The Marino family spokesman says a meeting is planned for noon on Sunday at La Hacienda to distribute the reward posters.

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Updated Thursday --- January 31, 2008 -- 4:10pm

New developments in Madison's first murder of 2008.

A reward is now being offered to help find the killer. A $30,000 reward is now being offered for information about who killed Joel Marino.

Police say he was murdered inside his home on Monona Bay Monday.

So far, at least three items have been recovered from the scene. They include an 8 inch knife, a hat and a backpack.

Friends of Marino's plan to circulate this poster in and around the downtown area.

An anonymous donor offered the $30,000 reward.

Brad Springbrum from Janesville use to work with Marino and sent us some pictures of him on the job.

He says, "Joel was one of the best EMT's you could have ever have worked with. Joel took very good care of all patients he treated, was full of energy and drive and he truly loved his job and enjoyed living in Madison."

Authorities can't rule out the possibility this murder was random, but they assure residents in that area that the neighborhood is still safe.

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Updated Thursday -- January 31, 2008 -- 11:45am

A $30,000 reward is being offered for information in the murder of a 31 year-old Madison man earlier this week.

Joel Marino was found wounded in an alley near his home.

Police say Marino may have been stabbed at his home and collapsed in the alley on his way to get help at nearby St. Mary's Hospital.

Friends of Marino plan to circulate a poster in the downtown area.

Funeral services for Marino are planned for this weekend.

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Updated Wednesday --- January 30, 2008 --- 10:07pm

All services for Joel Marino will be held at Lake City Church in Madison.
Marino's visitation will be held on Friday, February 1, 2008 from 3-6pm.
Marino's funeral will be held on Saturday, February 2, 2008 at 2pm.
Lake City Church is located at 4909 East Buckeye Road in Madison.

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Updated Wednesday --- January 30, 2008 --- 6:10pm

An update Wednesday on the Marino case, the man who was found stabbed to death in an alley near Park Street.

Investigators have recovered items they believe belong to the person of interest in this case.

Investigators have found a hat and backpack that are being taken to a crime lab for forensic tests.

Police also confirm they found an 8 inch knife at the victim's home. The knife had undried blood on it.

Items were recovered during a search of the neighborhood on the day of the murder.

The hat and backpack were described as items worn by the person of interest when he was last seen.

Police are describing him as a male about 6 feet tall with a thin build.

Wednesday night, a meeting is being held to brief neighbors about the incident.

If you'd like to attend it will held at St. Mary's Hospital in the Bay One Conference Center at 6 pm.

Marino's family and friends have also established a reward fund for information regarding this case.

If you'd like to contribute it's setup through McFarland State Bank in McFarland.

Joel Marino Reward Fund
McFarland State Bank
5990 Hwy 51 Box 7
McFarland, WI 53558

Checks can be made payable to the Joel Marino Reward Fund.

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Updated Tuesday --- January 29, 2008 -- 6:30pm

Madison: Madison Police say a downtown murder may have been a random attack. The victim was stabbed to death Monday afternoon.

The victim has been identified as 31 year old Joel Marino.

The first call came in at 1:22 in the afternoon, when employees at a nearby business found a man in this alley just off Park St.

The man was Joel Marino. He was pronounced dead at a hospital at 2 pm.

Dane County Coroner John Stanley indicates Joel was stabbed to death-but they haven't identified the weapon. "We've determined that Mr. Marino died of multiple penetrating wounds from a sharp instrument."

Joel worked out of his home for a medical supplies company called Boston Scientific.

Police say Joel was likely attacked in his home-possible by a stranger.

"We also know that this particular incident may have potentially occurred within the victim's residence. At this point we cannot rule out this was a random act. We cannot rule out that this was a random act," says Asst. Chief Randy Gaber.

The district police captain says there are occasional break-ins in the neighborhood, but little violent crime.

Local alder Julia Kerr says this is rare. "Most people consider this to be a fairly safe neighborhood."

Everybody who knew Joel Marino, a co-worker, neighbors, his lawyer-all describe him as a good guy, making this all the more unsettling.

"He really was a really decent guy," says Kerr.

Police are looking for a person of interest other witnesses spotted in the area around the time of the murder.

He's described as a white male, 6-foot-1, wearing a sheepskin coat with a white stocking cap with a W, and carrying a newer grey backpack.

Anyone with information should call Crime Stoppers at 266 -6014.

A Neighborhood meeting is set for Wednesday at 6:00pm @ St. Mary's.

Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 6:00 pm
St. Mary's Hospital
Brooks Street Entrance (between Erin and Delaplaine)
Conference Center, Bay One
For more information please contact Ald. Julia Kerr at 260-2661

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Updated Tuesday --- January 29, 2008 --- 10:50am

Police have released more information on the first murder of the year in Madison.

On Tuesday morning we learned officers are looking for a person of interest in this case.

As we first reported -- a 31-year old Madison man was found unresponsive in the 700 block of Park Street Sunday afternoon.

That's near St. Mary's hospital.

He was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Detectives now believe --- the crime potentially happened inside his home which is near-by.

At this point, they can't say if this may have been a *random* act.

Here's the description of the 'person of interest' in this case:

He's around 6 feet tall, last seen wearing a white stocking cap with a red W on its front, and a tan sheepskin type jacket.

In addition, he was carrying a gray, new looking backpack.

If this description sounds familiar -- call Madison police.

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Update Tuesday, January 29 --- 9:00am

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Police say the death of a Madison area man found in an alley in a neighborhood near Lake Monona is apparently a homicide.

The 31-year-old man was found yesterday afternoon by employees of Design Craft Advertising. The unidentified man was taken to a hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Police won't say how the man died.

Neighbors say many people in the area walk, bike, jog and enjoy Monona Bay. Officials say it's not a high crime neighborhood.

The death would be Dane County's first homicide of the year. The county had eight last year.

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Original Story Posted Monday, January 28
9:00pm Update

At 1:22 Monday afternoon, employees of Design Craft Advertising called police after they noticed a man lying in the alley next to their building.

Police arrived to the 700 block of Park Street to find a 31 year old man from the Madison area unresponsive.

He was rushed to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead. Police are not saying how he died or if he even knew his killer. And since they do not know if this was a random murder, they can not say if the community is in danger.

For hours after the call, police combed the area looking for clues, our cameras even spotted them inside a neighboring house.

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Posted by: anonymous Location: madison on May 28, 2008 at 03:14 PM
so now that it has been released that the zimmerman murder and the marino murder are not related, all you people who kept screaming "serial killer in madison!" can eat your words and go back to whatever boring job or life you had before.

Posted by: John Location: Tampa on May 19, 2008 at 02:46 PM
WHO WAS THE ARTIST FOR THE SKETCH! It looks like a sketch my 3rd grader drew last year of a snowboarder! Do you mean to tell me that MPD doesnt have a sketch artist that can draw better than that! Come on! They could at least go to the school of art and have a student draw a picture if they dont have anyone that can draw! How are people supposed to identify the killer if the pic is so remedial.. This is why the MPD needs to step aside and bring in the FBI or something... The investigation, the sketch, the police, everything with this case is terrible! I sure hope for Morino and his family's sake the Madison community doesnt just let this stuff slide because from afar it looks like a commic strip and you all are the readers.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 19, 2008 at 11:02 AM
There are three unsolved murders. Not just two! There is a big similarity between the appearances of both female victims.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 19, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I agree with 6:58. People who have to mention degrees or status are very, very insecure. On the main subject: I believe that there are enough similarities between the murders that they could have been committed by the same person or group of people. This equals SERIAL KILLERS IN MADISON WI. Why hasn't the FBI been called in on this? Why don't we try to hire someone from the outside to do the detective work. I think that it is pride that is preventing the MPD from admitting that they need help for a bigger source. There is nothing wrong with calling in help. There is something very wrong with not being able to solve the crime and making excuses to cover up your stupidity and PRIDE!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 19, 2008 at 09:28 AM
Suzie Q, my point was I have never seen a patrol car with its light & siren activated driving the speed limit!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 18, 2008 at 06:58 PM
lets not play the race card here. black people say this or that is unfair to their race but when white people say that, its suddenly ignorant and racist. they want to be treated equal, so they are. deal with it. another thing, to the people on here preaching about their bachelors and master degrees, stop it. we get it, you went to college, like most of the other people on here. it is what it is and you dont need to brag about your education to get your point across. we can all agree that MPD has done a crappy job and something needs to be done.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 18, 2008 at 05:43 PM
Anony may 17 10:13 So are you trying to tell the swell people of Madison that the Police Dept. is lacking vim and vigor? Something the entire world already knows. Sorry you had to work security to find that out first hand.

Posted by: Susan on May 18, 2008 at 03:31 PM
S, that doesn't answer my question. Police were on the scene 4 minutes after dispatch received the call. What more are you expecting of the dispatch center and police? If an officer is driving 25 with his lights and siren on that is hardly dispatch's fault.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson Location: Chicago on May 18, 2008 at 03:17 PM
Wow! I cant believe someone used the word colored on here when refrencing a human race! I thought Madison was supposed to be this highly educated community! Come on people get a clue you are not as great as you think you are! It seems you may live in a racist and non caring area that only acts like its welcoming! This crime should have been solved whether the person was white,black or pink! Use your heads! Your Community is falling apart and there is nothing you can do because it is you that let it get this way! It is you that have allowed your police to be weak, it is you that have welcomed your mayor to have his personal agenda, it is you that fails to see the truth, it is you that walks away! The only way out of this one is by firing and hiring for rebuilding your city governement! Good luck and please be more mindfull of words such as colored! That is terms used well before all of our time and those words are very harmfull!

Posted by: trash in hand on May 18, 2008 at 01:55 PM
Amazed I am (12:19) in responding to such an asinine comment. Well, you deserve this Amazed, just think (if you can) if these folks were black, the crimes probably would have been solved long ago. MORON! Hey Paiger, I'm not comprehending, why do so many people say get a clue? Thats so stupid.

Posted by: Uncle Mikes on May 18, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Is it safe to assume the Detectives are just rambling on hoping to stumble onto something?

Posted by: S on May 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Hey Sue at 10:34a.m. I have to say there was a time when I saw MPD the guy had his siren and light activated and I kid you not, the speed limit was 25, thats exactly what he was driving! I've never seen that anywhere else before in my life.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 18, 2008 at 12:55 PM
The only similarities are how useless the dispatch, and detectives are. Or maybe I should just say the entire law enforcement community.

Posted by: Susan on May 18, 2008 at 10:34 AM
The "witness" called 911 at 4:58. Police were dispatched at 4:59. Police were on the scene at 5:02. Even if the dispatcher didn't know which murder, how can you fault this response? What else were they supposed to do to make you happy? Yup, this is really non-functional. I guess dispatch is supposed to make cops drive faster so they get somewhere in one minute, not 3.

Posted by: Paige Location: Madison on May 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Amazed, you may have a point but people don't use the word colored anymore. Get a clue!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Well, from reading the above order of events it is possible the suspect may have been a known actor to Joel. It sounds like there was no forced entry. Don't forget about the Medial Equipment he sold. Suspect may have heard about it somehow and thought he could make a quick buck. Of course Joel may have indeed let an unknown person inside, I don't know. At times it is best to keep things from the public . There is no need to tip off the suspect, or coerce helpful but misinformed people into giving police wrong information, or worse yet give out info too soon that is not verified... then you have a rumor mill started. ALL NO GOOD! And consider this. God bless the Marino family, but sometimes investigators have to look at families, friends, job-sites of victims. Uncomforting thoughts for sure, but that's procedure. Seemingly endless endeavor. Don't think for 1 moment MPD hasn't examined certain theories even if they don't say it.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 03:02 PM
well now, how admirable. I guess we are switching to the other unsolved murders about the non effective 911 dispatch center.

Posted by: Amazed Location: madison on May 17, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Wow! It's amazing how much attention an unsolved homicide case receives when the victim involved is caucasion. Do you know how many unsolved homicide cases there are out there in this state that have either been closed or remain open, unsolved? so, people now want explanaitions for why the investigation is taking so long and meetings are scheudled with public personnel regarding this. Wonder if this would be accomidated if the victim and his family were colored?

Posted by: Paige Location: Madison on May 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM
My heart really goes out to the families of Joel Marino, Brittany Zimmerman and Kelly Nolan. Madison police have their hands full and it seems to me they're too stubborn to ask for help. And let's not forget about the 911 Center...I realize that job can be very difficult...however after listening to the Marino 911 calls it seems to me some of these people don't have a clue! In the call where they dispatch police after the witness spotted the murderer...the dispatcher says she doesn't know what murder he's talking about. Has she been under a FREAKING rock? It makes me want to scream! I don't know what else to say. I hope these murders are solved soon.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I feel sorry for some Madison PD Officers I did security in the area for 3 years and there are some fantastic officers working the streets. On the other hand there are also some really terrible officers out there as well. Not terrible in the sence that they will beat you up or steal your stuff, but more in the fact that they just don't seem to care about the people of Madison. I have quite a few stories of times where there response and attitude in general towards the public has been very lack luster. Kind of makes you wonder who the officers knew on the hiring board to get the job they have.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 03:20 AM
In response to Helen: I’m going to quote something I heard from a Madison Officer "Mayor Dave is out to lunch, permanently!". Obviously the PD has no faith in him either.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Another swing and a miss for Madison PD.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Gosh, with all these urban city law enforcement officers one may get the wrong impression you could lend a helping hand to the non effective detectives at the helm.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 16, 2008 at 12:36 PM
It the murder was a transient, then these things would be happening in other areas as well as just Madison. The murder is in town and is waiting and planning. I agree, I think we have a serial killer in Madison. It has happened before in Wisconsin (Ed Gien, Jeffery Dalmer), why are people afraid to look at it for what it is?

Posted by: Officer Gibs on May 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Officer frendly you and CJ are both correct! The Madison Police must really have departmental flaws. I am also a big city copper and cant believe what I am reading on here.. Is this Chief going to bring the family of a victim in to his office and explain to them he feels they disrupted his investigation? These people want justice! Its time MPD starts really looking at who and what they are hiring from the officers to the Chief! I am so dissappointed in them as a member of the law enforcement community! Sadly, they will probably pin this case on someone just to get it solved!

Posted by: Helen Location: Madison on May 16, 2008 at 09:07 AM
CJ's comments are well written and on point. Additionally, the complaints about the DA's office are well taken. There is more than enough blame to go around. I am happy that the 911 center issue (that the MPD Chief brought to the attention of the public to divert attention away from his failures) is no longer the focus of attention. Lets focus on the problem. Murders are not being solved and crime is increasing. I am tired of the excuses from the MPD. You can do a lot of work and still not be effective. Lets focus on results not work completed. Finally, where is the Mayor? He comes out for the med-flight accident so we know he is around. Mayor, start addressing issues. I am so tired of this guy. We all need to remember his lack of leadership the next time we vote.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 16, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Good luck family! The MPD can't handle the job. You would be better off hiring your own investigation agency. I think the FBI should be involved in this. WE HAVE A SERIAL KILLER IN MADISON WISCONSIN!

Posted by: Officer Friendly on May 15, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Actually, I can relate to CJ. I was a big city copper myself. Yes, instead of all these feel good policing programs, Madison PD must take a page out of former LAPD chief Daryl Gates's book. Ever hear of the CRASH unit? Community resistance against street hoodlums. While it didn't eliminate gang activity in LA, the police were feared and respected, and were a constant thorn in the gangs side.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 13, 2008 at 05:21 AM
One thing all of you who are complaining about MAPD may want to do is start to take a look at the Dane County District Attorney's office. You will find the arrests are being made and the offenses are being dealt down. And I mean WAY down. If I could, I'd love to write a little public letter, of each of my arrests that were dropped by the DA's office. But unfortunately I'm in Dane County and would most certainly lose my job if I tried to inform the public of serious offense which the DA didn't feel like prosecuting. So as "anonymous" I'll just say cops are doing their fair share of work in Dane County to get criminals off the street. We are able to focus on alcohol related issues because it stop other actual "crimes" from happening. (i.e. sexual assualts, robbery, battery, and yes, maybe even a murder). If we had 20,000 very drunk kids walking around town, I guarantee problems would be a lot worse. Just a suggestion, take a look at your county DA's office and show up to vote!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 12, 2008 at 01:31 AM
Madison PD is so focused on being P.C. they have lost focus on actually solving and stopping crimes. I just wonder how many more people are going to be killed before they wake up and focus on the important things. (Not that being P.C. isn't important I just don't like seeing people murdered first Kelly Nolan, then Joel Marino, and now Brittney Zimmerman. Who's Next?)

Posted by: Anonymous on May 10, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Cj, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that there maybe anotherCj. In the event its the same one blog after blog. I'd hate to talk to you personally. You remind of my dad he talks so much after a period of time you dont know its doing it anymore. Its just a constant non stop noise!

Posted by: Anonymous on May 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM
The police in this town are too busy working overtime at keg parties, railroad crossings, and speed traps. Even if you don't factor in the .000 batting average in solving murders, think about how violent stranger on stranger crime is rising in this city. I'd like to see some stats because it seems like there is something in the paper every day.... muggings, carjackings, bank robberies, etc. Seems all the criminals are moving here because it is easy to get away with things.

Posted by: CJ Location: MADISON on May 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM
STEVE!! If you really must know I have never been arrested by MPD! I actually just moved back to the city of madison from Baltimore! I have a Bachelor Degree in Criminal Justice, a masters in Criminal Justice Management from UW Milwaukee, and am 3/4 finished with my PHD in Criminal Justice from John Jay College in NY! I was a Baltimore Police Sgt. for 15 years! So I know a little about what I am talking about! Baltimore has over 300 murders a year and is not a very big city! I witnessed first hand what happens when issues like these are pushed under the rug! Madison has not seen violence yet but it is surely showing face! My writings on here are a reflection of what I have learned along the way and a hope that individuals such as yourself (steve) realize that by not standing up what is to come! I truly dont need to explain myself further but want you to know I am not some punk that just fell off the wagon yesterday! We have a issue here and it needs to be brought to the table!

Posted by: Steve Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 07:39 PM
By the comments CJ is making, I would be willing to bet that he's been arrested by the MPD before. It explains all the sour grapes on his part.

Posted by: Not a genius Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 05:44 PM
CJ, as far as your post goes about bringing in the FBI or another agency, it really shows that you are not in a law enforcement career. First, you would realize there are jurisdictional issues that can't just be "handed" over to an outside agency. Second, you would realize the FBI does not work on your typical homicide investigations. Third, if you think the FBI is better at solving homicides than the run of the mill police agency, you're mistaken. I have had the opportunity to work with several federal agencies through the military and have found most are more incompetent at doing their jobs than local/county/state officials. They're very good at their specialized areas, but not so hot at other things. Please do not claim you're "on the front lines" when its not true. You only end up embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: CJ Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 05:21 PM
You heard Joel Morino's father! He lost Confidence in MPD! We all should! We all should be outraged about the entire system! From Barney and Roscoes Crime Solving abilities to the 911 center! Not to mention our broken down Department of Corruption (Corrections)! D and J get out of your dream worlds! In The Criminal Justice world its called the BROKEN WINDOWS Theory! Please Google the Theory or go to the library and read about it! We are watching it unfold before our very eyes!

Posted by: CJ Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 04:48 PM
each of you need to start researching the topics before you sputter off from your lip! Go to NCJIS, read the crime reports dont just read the paper and watch the news. This is not just Madison it the entire country! Read our Chiefs resume and than compare to other Police Chiefs! You will be very suprised! I can appreciate the lip but please dont waste your time! I know who I am ! I am very concerned about the Madison Community and find it very hard to sit and watch it all unfold knowing there is alot that can be done! First and Foremost we need the public to be exposed to whats really going on and for the public to stand up! However, its not easy when there are a great deal of cover-ups and silence! WE ARE IN TROUBLE LIKE IT OR NOT! Its up to us to get involved! Its up to us to relay information and get our friends involved and thats why I am on here! Not to have someone tell me I dont know what I am talking about because I do! I want people to be involved and realize we r in 4 hard X's

Posted by: D on May 9, 2008 at 03:59 PM
You don't have to be a detective to know CJ is not on the front lines. And I quote "...you are all a bunch of..." Wouldn't it be? "...you make us all look like a bunch of..."

Posted by: Steve Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Maybe if you people who bash the police would focus your energy on catching the killer, then this case could be solved. Instead you just sit back and criticize when you don't have a clue as to what's going on. Just stick to watching CSI and a bunch of other garbage fiction on television and keep thinking that all crimes are easy to solve.

Posted by: J Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 01:21 PM
CJ-You can talk about anything you want on the computer. If your on the front lines all the time, why are you crying on a NBC15 message board? Stop typing and try and go make the change you want to happen. You sound really dumb saying your on the front line, but your only way of voicing an opinion is on here.

Posted by: Finally?! Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 11:41 AM
FINALLY the someone is giving the public information? There is NO reason that public needs to be informed that the G-MA heard some noise. You people are SO nosey!!! If the public isn't receiving information it is probably for a very good reason. Chill out!

Posted by: CJ Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Thanks you Helen! J has no idea who I am or what I do! I might just be one of the boys in blue! That is fed up with this City and the way it handles issues! To be very honest you would be suprised J! Im actually someone who has been on the front lines for a long time! I know first hand what this is all about and I want my community to take charge and realize whats happening before their very eyes! I have been told to sh&# the F&$% up many of times and am not going to keep quiet until we have justice but thanks for your concern J!

Posted by: J Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Helen -- It's truely disturbing to me, that there are people like you that live among us. I can lash out at anyone for any reason, just like CJ did. What the problem is, is you dont understand the real world. You think the police have a crystal ball like CSI or whatever crime shows you watch. This is a big peoples conversation, maybe you dont belong here.

Posted by: Helen Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 09:53 AM
J: Just because you don't like the tone of CJ's comment does not give you the right to lash out and tell him/her to shut the hell up. If you get beyond CJ's anger, he/she is right. There needs to be some accountability in this City. Problem is, you can't hold anyone accountable in the City of Madison because people like you will always take a whack at them because somehow holding people accountable is unfair. It is you who is the activist not CJ.

Posted by: great on May 9, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Why does anybody but the FBI need to know any of this. I bet this will help any conviction. What do you think CSI watchers? Should we give the killer everything we know so he can make a plan. Real Smart!

Posted by: B on May 9, 2008 at 08:23 AM
CJ, turn off the TV. Your Gotham City speech is for the Cartoon network. Maybe you could join us in the real world and offer a feasible suggestion. It's people like you that cause the police to have an "Us Against Them" attitude. I hope you never need help. If you do, call 4-1-1 and ask for Barney or Roscoe.

Posted by: J Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 06:47 AM
CJ -- Shut the h--- up. You're a real activist behind the computer screen, aren't you? Grow the h--- up.

Posted by: Tina Location: Madison on May 9, 2008 at 12:14 AM
I feel for Joel's family and friends and I honor his memory, though I did not know him. However, the comments trashing the police are way too "easy" -- we need to be more clearheaded when we think about this, and not resort to these kinds of attacks, many of which just end up as racist diatribes. How can we all work together? That might be one way to honor those who have died -- working together to forge a stronger community.

Posted by: Anonymous on May 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
I'm glad that the family is finally giving the public some information, something that the inept MPD won't do. My thoughts are with the family and let's hope the animal that did this is caught soon.

Posted by: anonymous2 Location: madison on May 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM
The cops could help us by telling us how the murderer broke into Brittany's apt. They said no force entry when Joel was murdered but they said "forced entry" when Brittany was murdered so tell us law enforcement how the door was forced open and what kind of lock didn't work so that we can get something better. Doesn't that make sense to tell us at least that? help us help ourselves to try to be safe behind our locked doors because Brittany did the right thing keeping her door locked yet she was murdered. Give us the information we need to protect ourselves to some degree.

Posted by: Steve Location: Madison on May 8, 2008 at 09:33 PM
What many of you people don't realize is, real life is NOT like the Detective shows on television. Some of you have a twisted perception of how things are. Solving a stranger on stranger murder is a very difficult task. It is not like a murder where it's a boyfriend killing a girlfriend etc. If all you armchair detectives can do the job better then why don't you go and apply for the job then??

Posted by: CJ Location: Madison on May 8, 2008 at 07:39 PM
THE MADISON POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE CLEANSED! WE NEED A NEW WAY OF HIRING AND WE NEED TO START FIREING! Thanks MPD for helping us all realize you are all a bunch of Barney's and Roscoe's! Please let the FBI handle these homicides so we can have justice in this city or bring in some real cops from other city's to get this solved! MPD YOU ARE A JOKE!

Posted by: His friend Location: Wisconsin on Mar 11, 2008 at 01:32 PM
WSJ is reporting lots of new leads already since this composite was released yesterday. That's great news for Joel's friends and family, who miss him very, very much! We will never stop looking!

Posted by: CS Location: Madison on Mar 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM
I disagree that they won't find the cuplrit. The new info proves they are tight on the trail and it will be only days before this so-called man is caught. Stop being so darn negative and buff up, have some positive thoughts and remember this was someones son, brother, lover and friend, who are all pounding the pavement hard until this is solved.

Posted by: friend Location: madison on Mar 10, 2008 at 09:37 PM
i miss you joel. :( RIP

Posted by: Anon Location: Madison on Mar 10, 2008 at 06:37 PM
It was terrible this happened however now i really think MPD is grasping at straws to make them selves look like they are heroes which they arent, I really think if they didnt catch the culprit already they wont anymore which is sad

Posted by: Friend Location: Madison on Mar 10, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Joel was a great man who touched many lives. Anyone taken from us in such a violent way leaves much saddness and many questions. That is why those who love Joel are doing anything to help find who did this...not to shadow over others in the press! Please be respectful to the family and friends.

Posted by: Falan Location: Wausau on Feb 18, 2008 at 12:37 AM
It seems as though in the past few comments people have been talking about publicity of Joel. It disgusts me that this young mans life was taken and all some people can talk about is press in such a sad time for family and many, many friends. Joel was an amazing person that touched and changed peoples lives. He had so much care and compassion for everything that he did. He was truely one of a kind. At 31 it is hard to imagaine what this you man could of achieved. So for all of the people that have lost a baby's daddy or a friend due to violent crime in Madison my heart goes out to you, but for the sake of those that knew Joel please don't use this as a sounding board for the upset that you feel about the attention this murder is getting. Rest in eternal peace, Joel.

Posted by: Norman Location: Lake Placid, Fl. on Feb 15, 2008 at 02:47 PM
I have wondered if the police have pulled all the security cameras of Park St. businesses to view inside and outside activity at the time of the murder.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 14, 2008 at 09:54 AM
This young man seems to be getting more press and sympathy than Kelly Noland did. People blamed Kelly for being out drinking. I don't see any difference between the two situations. I alo see a similarity between the sexual assault suspects and this murderer. The problem is that Madison is no longer a safe place. Young gang members and thugs rule the streets, intimidate teachers and students. Wandering creeps migrate from Milwaukee and Chicago because the pickings are easy in Madison. We live in a dream thinking that Madison is safe and still the town we grew up in. It is not. People are being murdered in the downtown. People are being robbed at grocery stores. And as pointed out below - there is not a "bad section of town." The whole of Madison is a crime zone and the Mayor does nothing! Nothing! Nothing!

Posted by: Friend Location: WI on Feb 13, 2008 at 06:55 PM
I can't seem to find the words within myself to describe what an amazing person Joel was...nothing I can say will ever be enough. It hurts so much everyday but he will forever be in our hearts and souls. I will always be a better person for having known him...I will cherish every memory. We will find justice for you Joel!

Posted by: Norma Location: Kissimmee, FL on Feb 7, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Joel was an outstanding human being, and came from a loving caring family. My heart bleeds for his family, and hope the person who murdered Joel is caught soon. Joel will live in the hearts of many as his mother has with me.

Posted by: Shannon Location: Seoul on Feb 5, 2008 at 07:49 PM
I think about you everyday Joel. One thing is certain; you won't be forgotten. I guess that's as much as any of us can hope for--to leave such an imprint on the lives of others. A life well-lived.

Posted by: Megan Location: Madison on Feb 5, 2008 at 07:05 PM
We will never have a neighbor as wonderful as you, Joel. As I look out my kitchen window at your house tears come to my eyes with thoughts of all that I will miss about you. You will forever be remembered.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 4, 2008 at 09:13 PM
Joel was a great guy and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. May you rest in peace, Joel.

Posted by: Jessica Location: Madison on Feb 4, 2008 at 08:29 PM
I'm sorry you're son lost his father, but please don't make it a racial or publicity issue on this site. Please respect the family and friends of Joel to grieve and let these postings be about the memory of a great individual.

Posted by: EP Location: IL on Feb 4, 2008 at 07:03 PM
Hey anonymous...don't make this a color thing. Maybe your baby's daddy didn't touch enough lives or do as much good as some other people...What do you think this is, a popularity contest!?!?!? Grow up and try to think before you speak.

Posted by: Stu on Feb 4, 2008 at 06:27 PM
cc, maybe if there was an ID in the backpack the MPD would figure it out. Why blame the MPD like people often do? They are doing the best they can. Why don't you solve it if you are so smart? And "Anonymous" regardless of what color your son's father was...if he made a positive impression he would receive the same publicity as Joel has. Hmm.....something to think about. I am sick of that old tune too.

Posted by: D Location: Madison on Feb 4, 2008 at 11:58 AM
I hope they find the person that did this however the trail is already going cold and there are no solid leads, I hope for his families sake this party is brought o justice however i am not holding my breath

Posted by: Ann Location: Appleton, WI on Feb 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Joel was a wonderful person and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madison on Feb 4, 2008 at 08:10 AM
Im sorry for your loss...but my son's father was murdered too back in Aug. and he didn't get this much publicity at all!!!!!and they still haven't caught his killer..Something just doesn't seem right.Oh I forgot he was black..I think thats the reason.

Posted by: Friend Location: Milwaukee on Feb 3, 2008 at 08:52 PM
I have not seen Joel since college but have many great memories of him. My sympathy to all of his family and friends. May angels lead you in Joel.

Posted by: Kelly Location: Temple, TX on Feb 3, 2008 at 01:12 PM
I have so many fond memories of Joel from high school French class and countless other great times. He always brought a smile to my face, and will be greatly missed.

Posted by: Ann Location: Madison on Feb 2, 2008 at 10:30 PM
May Joel RIP freinds and family and community members are in my prayers. Most of us like Joel didn't expect anything other than a better year in 2008. Unfortunately we live in the real world. I still think Madison is one of the safest cities to live in compared to other cities it's size. We live in a world full of crime everywhere, hello even the smallest cities and communities in the world the rate has risen even on college campuses in the communities as well as inside homes of individuals. I think this is the effect of citizens in society looking out for numero uno instead of trying to help others who are less fortunate. Who pays for the vicious random act of in society? We all do! crime, violence, drugs, gangs etc. regardless if it is a part of our personal lives or not the consequences affects everyone of every race and cultural as well as economic status. RIP Joel and may we all learn to live for today because none of us are promised tomorrow.

Posted by: Another Friend Location: Colorado on Feb 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Joel was a wonderful man! I have a lot of great childhood memories of him. He will never be forgotten. My thoughts and prayers go out to all of his family and the rest of his friends. I know we were all devastated to say the least.

Posted by: cc Location: etown on Feb 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Was there anything in the backpack that may help ID the "person of interest", or was the guy walking around with an empty backpack? Seems like the MPD is playing the "we know something you don't" game again, which has worked really well for the Nolan case.

Posted by: Friend Location: IL on Feb 2, 2008 at 10:20 AM
quite simply a nice guy and a great musician, rip Joel...

Posted by: patricia Location: madison on Feb 1, 2008 at 11:15 PM
to whomever wrote "let it begin", how about "LET IT STOP NOW" That is what Joel would have said, and backed it with action as a citizen who cared about this city, and the people that live here. We can all follow in his footsteps , and help each other. My condolences to all he knew and loved.

Posted by: t Location: jvl on Feb 1, 2008 at 02:28 PM
to bad that is a very common Carhert (sp) jacket in a common color. go to a jp cullum site and see all of them with them on.i know police are trying but just not much to go on.

Posted by: Kim Location: Madison on Feb 1, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Joel was a diamond. He sparkled no matter what he was doing. He will truly be missed. My prayers to his family.

Posted by: cd Location: madison on Feb 1, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Joel was a wonderful giving person and there is no sense to this tragedy. Anyone he generalizes this crime with "these crimes" and puts drugs or gangs in it just doesn't have a clue to who Joel was, please keep the negative comments out. This is hard enough for those who did know and love him. you will always be loved and missed Joel.

Posted by: Amy Location: Madison on Feb 1, 2008 at 12:26 AM
My condolences to the Marino family. How tragic that a man who dedicated his life to saving the lives of others--would be taken from his friends & family in such a terrible manner. And regarding the MPD, I have known Chief Noble Wray since he was in uniform and used to stop in my coffee shop. I cannot imagine anyone more committed to this city and it's citizens than Chief Wray. I think we need to say a prayer for Mr. Marino and have confidence in Chief Wray and his detectives--that this awful crime will be solved and justice will prevail. God Bless them all.

Posted by: Mickey Location: Oklahoma City on Jan 31, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Joel was a great guy that I am proud to have considered a friend for the past 5 years. I always saw him with a smile on his face and a very happy-go-lucky attitude. He will be missed. My thoughts are with his family.

Posted by: Friend Location: Colorado on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Joel truly touched so many people's lives. He was so genuine and willing to help anyone in need. He definitely left his mark in this world. My heart aches for everyone in Wisconsin grieving this tragic loss.

Posted by: EP Location: IL on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Everybody knows somebody who doesn't like someone...I never knew ANYONE...who didn't like Joel Marino. Wish I had a chance to say goodbye, Joel. See ya one last time tomorrow. EP

Posted by: Nancy Location: Minnesota on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:54 PM
Few people have made and will continue to make the world a better place just by simply being a good person - no agenda just good - Joel the world is a little darker because you are gone from us but your soul will always continue to shine. We will feel its warmth in our darkest moments and we will know you are there. Thanks Joel

Posted by: Bob Location: Madison on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:36 PM
I wonder if anyone is looking into a connection between this tragic incident and the theft of surgical equipment awhile back. Maybe nothing... My condolences to all friends and family.

Posted by: Friend Location: Madison on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Joel was a wonderful man who will be missed by so many. He was truly one of the nicest people I know. I pray they find who did this to him. Peace be with his family and loved ones. Rest in peace Joel. You were beloved in the community and we won't forget you.

Posted by: Friend Location: Mount Horeb on Jan 31, 2008 at 07:14 PM
Joel was truly loved by all and will be missed dearly! My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and close friends. I graduated with Joel and he was an amazing person, one who could always make you laugh on your worst day! My prayers are with you and your family!

Posted by: Holly Location: Friend in McFarland on Jan 31, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Joel was loved by all and will be truly missed. My heart goes out to everyone that Joel has touched as I know we are all grieving from this tragic loss. My thoughts and prayers go out to Joel's family as well. He was an incredible person.

Posted by: Friend Location: California on Jan 31, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Joel was a wonderful guy. This is a senseless crime and a very tragic loss. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and close friends back home at during this very difficult time. Joel - you touched many lives and will be dearly missed.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madison on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:46 AM
Now the Homeless are under the suspission for this horrible crime. If on eof them did it, he won't be homeless anymore, but if they did not do it, then let's have the public know that. That Man died a horrible way, but he is with God now. Let's all not panic, and help our law inforcement with solving this. We all need to work together here, the Police can not do this by themselves.

Posted by: m Location: madison on Jan 30, 2008 at 09:04 PM
what a tragic loss - my thoughts go out to his family and friends during this difficult time.

Posted by: Kim Location: North Carolina on Jan 30, 2008 at 06:51 PM
I cannot believe the disgusting thoughts that have been displayed. I agree that it is very sad that these people have nothing better to do than to talk bad about Joel and the horrific situation his family has to now endure. Joel was loved by all his family and friends, and how dare people make unwelcoming comments on this website or any other website. Those sad individuals would think differently if it was someone they knew. Obviously people have nothing better to do than to speak about situations that have no concern to them. My deepest sympathy to all the Marino family and all his friends; you are in my thoughts and prayers. Joel was a fabulous individual and was well liked by everyone. This is a very difficult situation and people should show some respect.

Posted by: heidi on Jan 30, 2008 at 06:20 PM
Condolences to all the family and friends of Mr. Marino. He sounds like he was a well respected and loved man.

Posted by: TP Location: Atlanta, GA on Jan 30, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Joel was a sharp guy. Smart and witty as all hell. He was kind. Most importantly, he was like a twin as step-brother to MY step-brother growing up in McFarland. I pray for peace for the Marinos and for my brother and his wife. I pray that Joel had a measure of peace in the end. Thank you for all those posting kind comments and for remembering that there are surviving victims who must deal with the trauma of loss alongside the tragedy of the crime.

Posted by: Friend Location: Cambria on Jan 30, 2008 at 02:53 PM
I am a friend of Joel's father and know how much his son meant to him. My thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family. God Bless you all. It also makes me very upset that NBC15 would allow such comments (Let it Begin) be posted and approved! This is very disrespectful to the family and friends of Joel. These dear people do not deserve to have to read such trash! You have just lost one very faithful viewer!

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chicago on Jan 30, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Joel was a close friend of mine for many years and he was loved by everyone who knew him. He was an amazing person that devoted his life to saving and serving others. I love him very much. My prayers are with his family and friends.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Minnesota on Jan 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I must agree - Please show some respect for the victim and his family & friends. Joel was a kind hearted soul who will dearly be missed by many of us. My thoughts and prayers are with him & his family right now.

Posted by: Anon Location: Madison on Jan 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM
My prayers go out to the family and friends of this individual. He seems to have been a well liked person, it's a shame that things like this seem to happen to good people. However, we can always think about the fact that maybe God needed him more than we did.

Posted by: Rosa Location: Madison on Jan 30, 2008 at 08:03 AM
This is very sad. But hopefully he made his peace with God. Besides that, with now a Morderer somewhere out there, is the Public safe? I know that Crime is everywhere, and the Police can not do it by themselves, so all of us need to work together.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Milwaukee on Jan 29, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Mazo- Please let it be known this victim is not a person involved in drug or gang activity. Ironically Joel is an expert cardiac surgery and devices that save lives. He was murdered between cases to save someone else.

Posted by: Tina Location: Madison on Jan 29, 2008 at 07:44 PM
what a terrible, terrible tragedy -- condolences to his family and friends

Posted by: Nik on Jan 29, 2008 at 06:13 PM
For those of us that knew and loved Joel do not appreciate the sarcastic comments. He was a wonderful man that was selfless and always helping and thinking of others. We will miss him and pray for his family and friends. We also pray that God will help find his murderer. At this point any answers would help, but we know that doesn't always come quickly. There was no reason for someone to do this to him and I am dumbfounded trying to understand why this happen. Again, I pray for his family and will greatly miss Joel. Nik

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Wisconsin on Jan 29, 2008 at 05:59 PM
To the jerk that wrote "let it begin", find some other statistic to make light of. This isn't the one. This was a very close, old friend of mine. We that are close to him are trying to sort all of this out. It doesn't make sense to us, just like it doesn't make sense that you would trivialize it.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Madison on Jan 29, 2008 at 04:46 PM
What in the world does "let it begin" mean? The VICTIM was a very close friend, and there are a lot of people who loved him and are going to miss him dearly. So to whomever wrote the unthoughtful comment, please keep your displeasure towards the police dept to yourself, it has nothing to do with this matter. I also am friends with the chief of police for Madison, and he takes his job very seriously and does his best to keep Madison as safe as possible. Try to have a heart for one moment and empathize with the victims family.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Chicago on Jan 29, 2008 at 04:25 PM
I also have a comment for the person who said "let it begin". What the hell is wrong with you? A senseless murder was committed and an innocent person has died, leaving behind many people who loved him. I'm sure you have posted that comment just to get some sort of sick pleasure out of people's responses, but if the victim was someone you knew I doubt you would be saying those things. The police need to find the disgusting individual who has done this so that this will not be the beginning of anything. Only the tragic ending of a life lived too short.

Posted by: Eric on Jan 29, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Please, keep in mind that he was well known in the community, more so the staff at st. mary's hospital.

Posted by: Resident Location: Mazomanie on Jan 29, 2008 at 03:10 PM
I think Madison is getting as bad as Milwaukee Wi. Every other day there is a shooting or a stabbing !! Some of Madisons problem's may be Gang related ! Drugs are always a big factor in these Homicides. madison Police can only do there best to try and stop these kind of Crime's.

Posted by: Friend Location: Milwaukee on Jan 29, 2008 at 02:23 PM
"Let it begin" ??? PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT! I knew the victim and am offended at the way you addressed your displeasure with the MPD. A little tact please.

Posted by: Resident Location: Madison on Jan 29, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Let it begin. I am willing to make a bet that in 2008, Madison has the most violent crime in decades. MPD lets step it up now!

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