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Parade Protest
POSTED: Monday, July 6 at 8:45 p.m.
"I began to boo when I saw that it said, '911 was an inside job" because I found it so offensive," said Columbus resident Charlene Larson.
On the day we celebrate the founding of our nation, one man finds himself behind bars.
Every year the Columbus Fourth of July parade attracts about 10,000 people, and one of those people this year is now the talk of the town.
The first 90 minutes of the parade was just like any other year, until a protester who designed his own float somehow entered the procession.
He screamed the following through speakers on the roof. "It's time for you to literally break out of that cage. It's time for you to burst out like the incredible hulk. It's time for you to get wild! There's nothing that can stop you now! Yeah!"
The car managed to make it through the entire parade following the main road through the center of town. At the end of the route the crowd began to boo and he stopped the car. That is when it got ugly.
The man, who police say is 31-year-old Mark Spinler of Beaver Dam, further taunted the onlookers until a few men ran out from the crowd and began tearing the sings off his car. One said "911 = Inside Job". Another read, "America: You Are All Slaves". He held a camera the entire time recording it all.
Added Larson, "I believe you have freedom of speech. But I do believe that you don't have the freedom to come to a peaceful gathering and start something ugly. which is what I feel he was trying to do."
Police say Spinler hit two people with his car and nearly hit others who had to dive out of the way as he tried to escape. He was arrested a short time later and charged with 2nd Degree Reckless Endangerment and Disorder Conduct.
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by Anonymous on Jun 27, 2012 at 09:39 AMzeitgeist[ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 20, 2009 at 07:30 AMBesides, I will go everywhere the media tries to spin the truth and demonize real patriots and obscure the truth, your not doing it, so someone has to. You must be against freedom of speech, must have been one of those knee jerk mobsters that rushed the vehicle to silence someone for speaking truth? You must have voted for Obama, or Bush even, you hate the bill of rights dont you, as long as it is for "others" to be silenced, but you fail to realize, its a double edged sword, you silence others, you have silenced yourself. People speaking out on unpopular subjects, created this country, if you hate freedom so much, you should move somewhere more comfortable, like China, they are big on censorship so you dont have to think for yourself. Its coming to a head in this country, constitutionally, if you think things are getting better, according to MSM, you are wrong, its on purpose, they are ruining this place for a goal of one world governance, MSM is a tool for convincing you.[ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 20, 2009 at 07:20 AMLOL, so thats why you are ignorant, you dont have time to pay attention, you are too lazy to look at facts, that is why we as a people are in this mess, you let the corporate controlled media do your reading for you, and then filter everything so you can continue to have happy thoughts? I do have important things to do, and this is one of them, maybe your most important thing is watching american idol? I do this because people like you vote, and if you vote without knowing what your voting for, because you let the media decide what is relevant issues, then you are affecting me and my family. So get off your high horse of ignorance, start paying attention, turn off the prpaganda machine (MSM media) and start doing your own thinking and researching, other than that, you are just a useful idiot to them. There is a war going on, and it is against us, we the people, and you are enabling the usurpers, and it causes great harm to the rest of us who are paying attention and get affected.[ Report Abuse ]
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by Anonymous Location: Madison, WISCOSNIN on Jul 17, 2009 at 02:25 PMRSBL, don't you have ANYTHING more inportant to do then site and blog on a Madison, WI news site from Vermont? Please, stick to your local news and quit writing paragraphs on ours. I havn't even read any of them because they are too darn long anyways. Please, get a life and watch some Vermont news and blog about that![ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 17, 2009 at 01:04 PM"The pipeline length is approximately 3,300 km, starting at the Georgian/Turkish and/or Iranian/Turkish border respectively, leading to Baumgarten in Austria." From the NABUSSCO website and our state dept. website. Now, I wonder why we needed to go to war in the middle east, this project was in place before 9/11, and was also to go through afghanistan, but the Taliban refused. They were threatened to be bombed if they didnt cooperate with certain corporations. You all need to start connecting the dots, there is plenty of motive to go to war, but its all for greed, not democracy, not freedom, you think they have more or less freedom now that we are there? How about us here? Which freedom are we protecting while we lose them all. This guy in the parade was giving you a wake up call....WAKE UP!! To them you are sheep, the cash cow, the peasants who should shut up and just go shopping, there is no change, just a new face. If you love your freedom, better start paying attention![ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 17, 2009 at 12:50 PMHere is a nice little quote from Hillery Klinton from the dept of state website, she is addressing the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR): "Thank you very much, Richard, and I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the mother ship in New York City, but it’s good to have an outpost of the Council right here down the street from the State Department. We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future." Shouldnt they be getting their ideas and orders from WE the People?? Not some unelected thinktank special interest group where most of our pres candidates came from last election, who are bent on world domination? We have been usurped as the government and bypassed, by the gov; think you have choice? Think they wouldnt do anything to keep that power from you? They want a one world government, goodbye to the Constitution. Conspiracy? yep[ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL on Jul 17, 2009 at 12:40 PMhttp://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/july/126071.htm Still think you people have any say in what your money is doing, or what we are doing around the world? Aparently, our lovable government does not get their orders and ideas from we the people, they get their marching orders from unelected special interest groups, hell bent on world domination. Research the CFR and look at what they stand for and what they have done already. Oblama was a member, and so was guiliani, bush, you think there is a difference between repubs and dems? Haha, they all get their orders from special interests that donate to their campaigns and other interests. They have no loyalty to the US, they are all globalists. You really think these people wouldnt pull off 9/11, you know, to make an omellete ya got to break a few eggs right? In fact, take a look at most of the pres candidates last election, see if they were a member. You all need to wake up and smell the tyrany and see what is going on while yousleep[ Report Abuse ]
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by History Lessons on Jul 16, 2009 at 12:33 PMOne of my favorites: “Look, if you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you're stupid. Did you hear that? - Stupid.” - Arthur Sylvester, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, 1965, at a Vietnam press meeting as reported by: Hammond, William M. Reporting Vietnam: Media and Military at War, 1998.[ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 15, 2009 at 02:28 PMJohn, there were no insults in my last post, it was a deduction based on what came out of your mouth and onto the screen. I know context of a conversation gets lost in translating through the keyboard. I am not being defensive either, however, having to explain simple observations is taxing in the patience dept. I wouldnt have to say anything had others done their homework, all I have seen from alot of people saying (almost word for word) the exact same thing the establishment spews as the official story, (which is impossible to happen) or some lame attempt to quote a debunked "debunker" which says to me, someone didnt do their research and are just parroting what they heard from a source they "think" is credible. If anyone was paying attention...credibility from "official" sources went out the window a long time ago. Assuming conspiracies dont happen, would be like believing in the tooth fairy, and is a major strategic error in critical thinking and basic observance.[ Report Abuse ]
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:11 AMAgain RSBL, not a big fan of your insults. I guess until you decide you can engage in a civil conversation without your defensive manner, I am finished with you.[ Report Abuse ]
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 15, 2009 at 07:32 AMIf you truly have a physics degree, you either looked at the evidence and are either incompetent, a fool, or a dis-info op planted to try and support the lies. Or, you are competent, and have not looked at the evidence, and only follow the mantra of the so called "debunkers". I cannot see how someone with a physics degree could look at the evidence and not say "hey, wait a second here, something wrong with what you just said, and something wrong with what I see". I study these things, explosives, military theory/strat/tac/ideology/doctrines, I build buildings, my father is an engineer and a viet nam vet, a major, was in the army corp of engineers, I built hospitals, prisons, airports, border control facilities, and houses. I study, electronics, physics, chemistry, I am now a project manager. I am educated, Im not some conspiracy theorist in my mothers basement. I pay attention. Everyone should search the truth for themselves, forget everything said here and go see with your own eyes.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 15, 2009 at 07:24 AMIf you dont think "conspiracies" happen, and people cant get away with things that happen, or its too large to pull off. You would be nieve. Operation Northwoods, operation Gladio, research in the governments own archives about whether pearl harbor was a suprise or not, whether the gulf of tonkin incident even happened, eugenics, how the federal reserve came to be, the need to even use the A-bomb on Japan in WW2, read the patriot act, military commissions act, john warner defense act, then tell me how we are doing. Silverstein ADMITTED that building 7 was "PULLED" on an interview, then backpedalled. Bin Laden NEVER took responsibility for 9/11, Bush and the bin ladens were friends and business partners. None of the "terrorists" were even on flight manifests (havent confirmed this one). Some were found still alive (unconfirmed by me) yet, these are questions that should be answered. Why all the hiding, why the lies, Bush saw the first impact?...where?!? Israelis deported. Many q's.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 14, 2009 at 11:44 AMRSBL (con't) And do you honestly believe for a minute that the fire and police bretheren would stand pat if they thought that their "brothersand sisters" were deceptively led into those buildings to die? Why haven't they spoken? I thought conspiracy like you at first, but the explainations given by independent researchers have satisfied me that it was NOT an inside job. Were there mistakes made? Yes. Is our government crooked? Yes. But I do not believe to this extent.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 14, 2009 at 11:41 AMRSBL, you are quite defensive as you insist on insulting people who disagree with you. I haven't called anyone a "whackjob." It's also funny how my sources (which are not Fox or any other mainstream media source) are dipwads, but your sources are gospel. As for WTC 7, large perimeter columns from the towers hit it as they fell to the ground. It was also the only building which had fires no one attemtped to extinguish. If you know anything about thermite, it burns in a downward fashion, but sideways to shear the towers' vertical columns. Also, the hot steel continued to undergo exothermic oxidation as it was exposed to air, causing the iron's temp. artound it to increase, leading to the molten pools everyone saw days and weeks later. You talk about the "players" in this conspiracy. Again, way too many for everyone to keep their mouths shut.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by G Location: Madison on Jul 14, 2009 at 09:49 AMConspiracy theorists and UFOlogists and all their followers are all nutjobs. They seem to get off on saying they've seen something or know something that happened that never happened. And then they wonder why nobody else sees things / understands things / or believes things their way and then they try to convince people by any means they can and if they cannot they then call them unbelievers, ignorant, or naive. By the way naive spelled backwards is evian, which is some peoples favorite bottled water for $1.49. These type of people are in love with themselves and love to hear themselves talk. Oh my GOD!!! global warming/UFO's/The Annointed One will save us/the world is running out of natural resources/Larger government and Higher taxes are the answer/JFK assassination/We never landed on the moon/there was no holocaust. And now I'm probably being accused of plotting to try to cover up the cover-ups. I'm so sorry for my naivete and that my life is so boring you Narcissistic Nutjobs.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:28 AMI would start with the thermite found, then watch the videos of the demolition of building 7, jump back to slo-mo video of the towers. Read the reports of the powerdowns prior to 9/11, and the maintenance work. Check the videos of eyewitnesses of the explosions. Watch the contradictions of the "officials" when backpedaling after a lie was exposed. Look how quickly they "knew" who did it, and the denial of foreknowledge, look for the lack of evidence of their claims. Look at where all the "players" were on and before that day and who they accociated with. Look at the companies involved, security at airports, WTC, who the people were and their assosiations with eachother. Look at plans for the middle east before then, and then carried out after. PNAC. Business deals that fell through with the Taliban. Even if it looks like bogus "theory", check it out, it just might be a puzzle piece that connects other pieces. There is just so much to see, it may take quite some time to get a grip.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:25 AMAnd when you actually have paid attention in your physics class, you can get on me about my spelling. You also cant hit 2 buildings with two planes and three fall, did you fail math too? Again, no true argument, only ridicule and insults. I bet you didnt even research anything we have said, you just parrot what fox news or some dipwad said in some attempted debunking, if you know physics, put it to use, there WAS molten steel, for weeks, wouldnt you think that the aluminum would have cooled by then? See infrared pics from satellite, see pics of squibbs, see firefighters radio transcripts, see videos of squibbs and loud explosions, see videos of many eyewitnesses seeing explosions and hearing them, see Norad ordered to stand down, see documentation of FBI told to stand down from Bin Laden, see peer reviewed paper on thermite found, see spot run, is this simple enough direction to start looking? Put that little degree to work, debate the engineers, physicists, architects. Well??You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 14, 2009 at 07:17 AMI dont need a degree for common sense, maybe you missed the memo, err, pictures of glowing yellow structural beams being pulled up by excavating equipment. As for my grammar, if thats the only proof you got that I am whacked out, more power to ya. And yes, I am sure there were hundreds of people involved in whatever conspiracy, just as if there were alot involved in the "conspiracy" about hijackers from a cave. I never said "what" really happened, I am pointing out that the governments story is so fishy, it stinks to high heaven, and based on facts, can deduce they are not clean in any aspect of it. Maybe before you talk about who needed to be involved, try researching that one before you open your "educated" mouth. Connect the dots so to speak, the firefighters DID witness explosions, there WERE powerdowns before then, people DO do these things, and if you dont believe our lovable government would do such a thing, I refer you to Operation Northwoods. And a degree dosent mean smart.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 13, 2009 at 06:46 PMFurthermore RSBL, there was no evidence of molten steel, simply molten metal, which was most likely from the planes themselves. When the molten material cooled, it was light gray, like the aluminum exterior of an aircraft, not black, like steel would turn when cooled. Just one of hundreds of facts that can debunk your "conspiracy." Also, do you realize how many people would be involved in your whacked out conpiracy? (Bush, NYC firefighters, police and port authority,the widows/widowers, everyone in the NIST, governor Pataki, CIA, FBI, FEMA, NORAD, American and United Airlines, people who planted/set off the explosives in the buildings, etc) Yeah, real plausible. Way to think this through. By the way, when you learn to spell and use proper grammar, you can get on me about my physics degree.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 13, 2009 at 11:36 AM""And for the record, the steel didn't have to melt for the towers to come down, just weakened, which burning jet fuel can easily do. And RSBL,"" Umm, there was MOLTEN steel, it was not just weakened. Even if it was just weakened, it would not have been simultaneous collapse, read my other posts, practically ALL of the fuel was burned up on impact, its not like your lamp oil that will burn slow, the only thing....just forget it, you failed physics, Im not going to explain to an idiot something they should have learned in high scholl. And to lump people that learned and paid attention to events into "conspiracy theorists that hate the government, is a cop-out. Lazy, do you even hear yourself? Did anyone say "everythings a conspiracy"? No, so to say that is just another tired old insult accomplishing nothing but making you look stupid. Do some research, come back and then we can talk.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 11, 2009 at 08:29 PMJack, I'm on Paxil already. As far as facts, would you feel better if the buildings fell sideways? In fact, there were parts of a plane pulled out of the Pentagon; the plane in Pennsylvania hit so hard it literally vaporized. Before you laugh, consider the Value Jet plane a few years back that crashed in a couple of feet of a Florida swamp and disappeared with hardly a trace of wreckage. As far as the air defense system being down, I blame that on a country that was pretty cocky and confident that before 911, our borders were air tight, and no one was going to "get us." Guess we were wrong. Everyone seems to forget about the '93 attacks on the Towers. Is that a conspiracy as well? Was that the first failed attempt? Wasn't the credit for that taken by Bin Laden? The fact is, anyone could come up with a theory as to what happened on 911, and Science could provide evidence to suport each one. Conspiracy supporters like you think you know it all, and are above us menial minded sheep. Shame!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Jack Location: NJ on Jul 11, 2009 at 01:41 AMTo John, Anyone who could possibly think 9/11 occured as the Mainstream Media Presented it should see if PAXEL IS RIGHT FOR THEM. Please give us all some of your Genius and answer just a few questions for me. Why did the trade center buildings fall at freefall speed, why were the thick steel supports all sheared of by shape charges which can be seen in hundreds of photos, where is the plane that hit the pentagon, no engines no wings or tail sections, nothing, was there a plane in pennsylvania, I only saw a whole in the ground, no plane, no bodies. How could the united states air defense be stupid enough to have its defence planes off on training and not replace them with others for security, and finally where was the Pentagons air defence Missile system, which is the best in the world, why did it not shoot down this plane as its orders are to protect the Pentagon at all costs. You have some Explaining to do.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 10, 2009 at 11:20 PMok ill bite. After reading all of these posts and hearing what people have to say, If the government was involved what did they have to profit from it? I agree that Mr. Spinler does have the right to freedom of speech. But couldn't he have done it in a safer way? There were families with small children there and they had to learn that not everyone is good very early in their lives. I have a family memer that is in iraq right now. I am a little upset about the lack of respect he showed to the soldiers over there, and to the public saftey officers that lost their lives that day. I work in public saftey and I am offended. And to all the people who say that 9/11 was an inside job and the government is out to get us, no one is stopping you from moving to another country. If you have such a huge problem with this one, move. I can honestly say that after reading all these posts I am shocked about some peoples attitude this nation.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by paul w Location: Australia on Jul 10, 2009 at 06:41 PMThe comments here by the '9-11 Inside Job' nutbars are complete hogwash, and have been debunked for years. I'm an Aussie, and we have them over here, too.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 10, 2009 at 06:08 PMEmma...the inner steel columns were painted in 1971....so the conspiracy goes back 30 years??? And for the record, the steel didn't have to melt for the towers to come down, just weakened, which burning jet fuel can easily do. And RSBL, I do agree that the majority of America is blind as to what the government does on a day to day basis, making them in a sense sheep; but you and your kind are another kind of sheep; the type that believes every single event since the dawn of man is some kind of conspiracy. You'll blindly follow anyone who disdains the government and has some far fetched explaination for a tragic event; beware, it's going to rain tomorrow-must be a cover up in Washington! BAAAAAAAAA!!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Tim Location: Kudzustan on Jul 10, 2009 at 05:05 PMIt is easier for people to believe that a goat-herder living in a cave in Afghanistan could blow up the Twin Towers than a high-tech insidious force. For one to entertain the possibility of such a diabolical agenda forces one to rethink all they think is true in their reality. Thus they reject the evidence their own eyes and concious knows is true.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Emma Location: Canada on Jul 10, 2009 at 12:50 PMTO: John Location: Deere on Jul 9, 2009 at 05:22 PM ... I used the hypothetical “Peter the painter” to simply illustrate that during the enormous false flag operation of 9/11 many people could be involved who knew nothing about the actual endgame. When the twin towers were last painted is irrelevant because it’s the INNER steel columns that are critical. A complete independent investigation is needed to explore all aspects of what really happened before, during and after the event. It is known however that there was a complete power-down in WTC 2 just days before 9/11(no security cameras operational) and the previously present bomb-sniffing dogs were relieved of duty on 9/6. Coincidence? Who knows? So many questions, so few satisfactory answers from the official side. Mr. Spinler is right to try to alert people to the truth about 9/11.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 10, 2009 at 12:25 PMAnd for the record, I do not hate my country just because I cant stand liars and cheats, it doesnt matter who they are. The government (proven liars) are not the the country, I guess you failed history, the people are the country, the government is to serve them, not control them. Go back and read the declaration of independence and the constitution and the bill of rights, or, explain to me what it was that you celebrated on the 4th of July. I celebrated my freedom won by the blood of patriots and the defeat of tyrany. You must be celebrating beer and barbeque, and by the way, just so I dont have to remind everyone, this is a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Saying nothing and doing nothing is accepting what has and is happening. But you are fighting for tyrany by attacking someone that is sounding the alarm your so desperate to ignore so your barbeque isnt interrupted. If they did the same to Paul Revere, where would we be at now...hmmm?? here, so you understand...BAAAAAAAAA!!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anon Location: Anon on Jul 10, 2009 at 12:12 PMSooooo I guess this means that all of Mark's defenders will show Columbus next year what it means to put on a peaceful demonstration that is appropriate for a family celebration? Hmph right.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 10, 2009 at 10:26 AMAt least us "nutjobs" arent cowards by posting anonymously. Says alot for you, as usual, no proof contrary to the claims, just name calling. Wow, you are just bursting with credibility. How many scientists do YOU have to back up your claim? I believe there are thousands if not millions that suspect foul play during 9/11 on the part of our government based on facts and obvious red flags in their own words spoken in front of everyone. Just because you are blind and ignorant, does not mean a "new majority" of americans and scientists are not. Are all the PHD in physics, chemistry, explosives, architects and engineers nutjobs? How about the firemen and police that were there that day who witnessed explosions in the buildings, the intellegence operatives and military personnel that have come forward nutjobs too? How about the family members who are screaming for a new independant investigation who are being ignored by the mainstream media and the massive protests at ground zero? Who is nuts?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 10, 2009 at 07:40 AMlol, bunch of nutjobs.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Red Baron Location: Ohio on Jul 10, 2009 at 07:21 AMHere the media trying to tell people how to think on this story. Misrepresentation of the truth! Way to go Mark, keep up the fight and keep making people made for making them have to consciously think about something. Can't wait to see Mark video, that's if the police did not erase it. The story will be different. You'll find out that ignorant people attacked MarkYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 10, 2009 at 07:07 AMPosted by: ConsDemo on Jul 9, 2009 at 08:33 PM RSBL take your dishonest and stupid conspiracy theories elsewhere. There is proof 9/11 was perpetrated by the U.S. government, you are just so full of hate for this country you want to believe it. Wanting to believe something doesn't make it so. Umm, go back and read my posts. I know there is more evidence pointing to elements within the "ruling" community than there is against 19 arabs. I know there is no evidence that most werent even on those flights. I know there is major conflicts of interest in all the "players" involved with the op and the investigation. I dont "want" to believe anything, but when the truth smacks you in the face, how can anyone ignore it? Main stream media is owned, bought and paid for, this has been obvious for a loooong time, social engineering anyone? How about everyone that reads here, research the issues surrounding 9/11, and then decide if this guy was doing the right thing by "shouting from the rooftops".You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Steve Location: Columbus, WI on Jul 10, 2009 at 02:56 AMI am ashamed to be associated with fellow Americans who would demand justice for Mr. Spinler. They ignore the fact that he was exercising his Constitutional right to free speech. Afterward they intentionally dismiss the crime committed against Mark by the people who assaulted him during his peaceful protest of a legitimate subject. 9/11 deserves an independent, unbiased investigation by people outside our government's influence. We deserve the truth. After all, millions of our tax dollars are engaged in armed combat that could have been avoided if the previous administration was challenged by WE THE PEOPLE before committing our sons, daughters, fathers, and mothers to an unnecessary combat situation. Have the last 8 years made us forget that America was founded on the principle of challenging government without consequences? If I were Mr. Spinler I would counter sue the people who attacted him. People like that do not understand nor appreciate why this country was formed.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2009 at 09:56 PMAnyone who lost a loved one or a "brother or sister" should be questioning the official story of 9/11 24 hours a day. Losing a loved one is not a good reason to blindly believe that our government was not involved.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by ConsDemo on Jul 9, 2009 at 08:33 PMRSBL take your dishonest and stupid conspiracy theories elsewhere. There is proof 9/11 was perpetrated by the U.S. government, you are just so full of hate for this country you want to believe it. Wanting to believe something doesn't make it so.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by m Location: mm on Jul 9, 2009 at 07:07 PMHi ya'll...see the Citizens Investigation Team's website and the evidence presented....interesting. And then there's, of course, the obvious Building 7.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous Location: United States of Soviet America on Jul 9, 2009 at 06:31 PMYou sheeple will believe anything the little box in the corner tells you. You all are pathetic and sad. WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT? UH? APPARENTLY ITS ONLY ALLOWED WHEN YOU SPEAK WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS TO HEAR. YOU ARE ALL ENSLAVED. NAME ONE THING THAT YOU CAN DO THAT THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE SOME SAY IN.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 9, 2009 at 05:22 PM2 comments-1st to Emma; when were the twin towers last painted? I know it wasn't 2001, so this "conspiracy" goes back quite a ways. 2nd to anon at 10:24 am. I do think that everyone has the right to make as much money as they can. The flaw in your argument is that you aren't willing to let me make as much as I can (since I work for the state) and that money will be coming out of your taxes, correct? See my point.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2009 at 03:42 PMNot sure if they've ever hit anyone, but the Zor Shriners on the go-carts that are present in a lot of parades in Wisconsin come within inches sometimes of all the people including children that are sitting on the curb watching.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2009 at 02:01 PMMaya, this public event was indeed a family one, as families were present. He knew his actions would cause negative consequences, and yet he chose to crash the parade without permission with a vehicle that he then chose to use to hit someone else. Makes no difference if people were angry with him, or if they tried to stop him from ruining the parade experience (which is precisely what he was trying to do). He made a choice, and the fault lies on his shoulders. He has every right to spout his nonsense, he had every right to be there, but he absolutely did not have the right to act in a manner different from the rest of the registered parade participants.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 9, 2009 at 01:13 PM"lunatics working under the instruction of an overrated cave dweller" Looks like you fell for the BS hook line and sinker. Where is the proof??? I will tell you, there is no proof whatsoever that some guy in a cave did it, even the FBI agrees. Look it up instead of eating what mainstream media feeds you, thats the problem, people get brainwashed, someone enlightens them, and they get angry about it. Do yourself a favor and turn off your TV. And yes, there are many who come out with the truth, many witnesses, but the MSM ignores or attacks them, there are thousands who came forward...try looking. As for the attackers, nice show for the children, what are you teaching them now, torture techniques to those that dare to speak out? Disgusting, shameful, and you proclaim to be the moral adults? Looks like ideas are more dangerous than unruly mobs? Where was the vigor when our gov was hijacked? Where was the outrage for those violated under color of law? Hypocrites I say. Enjoy your slavery.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Tiffany Location: madison on Jul 9, 2009 at 01:10 PMI believe that everyone has a right to their freedom of free speech also. My only complaint is why do people have to be so obnoxious about it?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Emma Location: Canada on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM9/11 was an inside job with not as many people “in the know” as you might think. Fear of reprisal for whistle-blowing is a huge motivator for keeping mouths shut. If you knew or found out later that you helped kill your own countrymen would you talk? Some played their parts without realizing what they were actually doing. Peter the painter is given nanothermite to apply to the steel columns of the WTC and told its rust-proofing. Afterwards he might realize what he did but he can’t prove it on his own. They quickly removed the evidence from the crime scene and never did a complete independent investigation. The White House went kicking and screaming into the sham called the 9/11 Commission and manipulated the findings via Philip Zelikow. Back to poor Peter -- if he does speak up he risks his job or possibly worse. Most likely he’ll just want to block out the horror of it all and try to forget about it. The atomic bomb was a well kept secret and so is 9/11, so far.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Truth Seeker Location: USA on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:45 PMI have seen plenty of evidence that the buldings were demolished... I have seen none that supports the "official story" and I can only pray that the sheeple wake up and shut off the main stream media liars.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Maya Location: California on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:51 AMIt was NOT Spinler's responsibility to have a permit; that would have been the organizers' responsibility. As far as one commentator's statement: "If he wanted to speak his opinion he could've done it in a safe manner, and not at a family event." Well, hold on there fella. First of all, this wasn't a "family event" but a "public one." Spinler had a right to be there just like you or anyone else in the community did. As to you statement that he should have had the safety of others in mind, well, it only turned ugly when the anti-free speech mob rushed him. Other commentors are correct. The people that should have been arrested were the ones that came to attack him.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:28 AMInside job is right. Carter had his minions do this to make Obama look like a good guy.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:24 AMJohn, you got something against people making as much money as they can? You seem to imply that the rich should be punished for their success. The only people who should be punished are those that do so under illegal means.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Patriot on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:22 AMFreedom1 (and like minds), I'd ask you to get informed as well. And possibly stop blaming the USA, and start blaming the people who killed thousands? Regardless of who masterminded it (and I do not agree it was our government), the fact remains that a bunch of suicidal lunatics working under the instruction of an overrated cave dweller chose to take the lives of thousands of innocent people. They made the choice to kill, therefore they are to blame.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anonymous Location: Madison on Jul 9, 2009 at 10:04 AMHe (like all of us) should have the right to free speach. I understand that he should have found a different way to express himself, but this far we should have the right to say what we want, within reason of course. Fine him, but other then that, ;eave him alone.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Rick Location: TN on Jul 9, 2009 at 08:19 AM?911! ?911! ?911!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Deere on Jul 9, 2009 at 07:50 AM911 was NOT an inside job!! You know how many people would have to keep their mouths shut for decades in order for this to fly? You can't tell your friend a secret without 8 people knowing about it by the end of the day. And Flight 93 landing in Cleveland? Yea, I'm sure the passengers are living it up in some hangar in Toledo. While I believe our government is in need of a major overhaul, I don't believe they killed Kennedy, had several of Clinton's associates "knocked off," nor are they hiding aliens in area 51. All of this is fodder to keep us from getting to the real issues: taxes,(allowing the rich to get richer) fake wars, education, and health care reform. The only problem I have with Spinler is the supposed profanity laced propoganda he (or his recordings)were spewing. If that's true, that's disgraceful!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Emma Location: Canada on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:50 PMMr. Spinler's message was bang on but his delivery should have been better ... less reckless. To get a reasoned approach to 9/11 seek out Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by concerned 7-7-09 2:47pm Location: beaver dam on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:36 PMso this is to all you people who are going on about hero mark, listen up!! he has a freedom to free speech but to endanger innocent people at a family event like he did is what got him in trouble. The way he forced his way in(no permit) and his dangerous driving when he was getting remarks putting the young kids in danger. He was only a few feet away from one when he gunned forwards and backwards. If he wanted to speak his opinion he could've done it in a safe manner, and not at a family event. It not about his freedom to speak it was the way he handled himself with innocent people around that is the problem. what did he expect people to do sit back and not react to him crashing the parade. Wouldn't you get angry if a party crasher came to your house and throw them out for disrupting your family party? specially when it is something as sensitive as 9/11. guts or not I still believe he is were he should be in jail for dangerous behavior.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Tessa C Location: USA on Jul 8, 2009 at 06:50 PMThis man looks like a FBI informant. I would be interested to see how far long in the court system he will be processed. I know many many 9/11 Truth researchers and scientists. This disruptive behavior is NOT a common incident, no matter how angry we may all feel. It's more productive to remain calm and discuss our findings with fellow americans. Disruptive, violent behavior is exactly what the Government wants you to believe about us. In fact, hiring some idiot to act out like this is more 'up their alley', than ours. 9/11 Truthers are common descent people among you....we are your next door neighbors, your family, your militry, your mothers. We come from diverse backgrounds in race, religion, class, etc. We have watched very closely how people respond to our findings. We wish to reach people's through logic and sensibility - evidence and facts. We are not sensationalists. We realize the TRUTH is sensation enough.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Freedom1 Location: Madison on Jul 8, 2009 at 05:07 PMSo Madison's fascist attitude has spread to rural Columbus. What a shame. This guy is a brave hero. It was the men from the crowd who ATTACKED HIM, why was HE arrested??? THEY broke the law, NOT HIM. He had obviously committed a "thought crime." This is a dangerous police state we live in, people. Watch the FREE film "Zeitgeist" on Google video. THEN rethink your whole attitude of your corrupt government. Get informed before you speak out.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Steve Location: south africa on Jul 8, 2009 at 04:04 PMjust google '911 was an inside job' watch 'loose change' '911 in plane site' 'fabled enemies' 'terrorstorm' get informed this is not a game, something bigger is coming God bless get into the infowarYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Steve Location: Columbus, WI on Jul 8, 2009 at 02:30 PMIsn't it ironic that on the day we celebrate our independence, freedoms, and liberties a man is arrested and villified for exercising his right to free speech? Why weren't the 'men' who rushed his car charged with disrupting a peaceful, family event? The city of Columbus, WI has strict rules regarding spectators interfering in any way with the normal flow of a parade. The July 4th parade was progressing normally until those spectators interfered. In fact, this incident occured less than fifty yards from the parade's finish line. The people who interfered should be in jail. No one would have gotten hurt if these spectators acted like adults.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Truth Be Tolled Location: Edmonton, Canada on Jul 8, 2009 at 02:13 PMI have quite a bit of sympathy for the cognitive dissonance experienced by the upset parade watchers. He pushed them too hard, for sure. But it seems maybe they overstepped their bounds at the point when they took physical action against the interloper. As for the lady in the video clip, what she is saying (without intending to say it) is, "You have the right to free speech as long as it doesn't offend me." Is that what the right to free speech means? And if someone disagrees with you, have your husband punch him in the mouth? No one else went to jail for assaulting the badly behaved parade crasher? Why not?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Maya Location: California on Jul 8, 2009 at 12:08 PMYes, it looks like in America freedom of speech only applies if you parrot the neocon/Bush/Obama administration's talking points on the "war on terrorism" and don't question anything. Shame on you America for not defending this man's rights to free speech. And, same for you NBC 15 for saying this man was "taunting" the crowd. He was not. He was attacked by the crowd because of his opinions. Most likely, if he wasn't attacked by the mob he never would have felt compelled to drive recklessly and hit those people.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anon Location: Beaver Dam on Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 AMIf you look hard enough, there will ALWAYS be a conspiracy theory if you want there to be one.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by john Location: washington on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AMyou are all idiots, why should this guy be in jail, for wanting to use his rights that the forefathers faught for in 1776. because one man wasnt stuffing his face of burgers and beer and tried to exercise his free speech he gets torned down from fellow americans and its disgusting. you americans better be very careful how quick you are to cheer on someones freedom of speech being taken away when many of your freedoms are being taken away without your even knowing this. if the average person who calls 9/11 truth seekers crazy would seek out information for themselves it wouldve been alot more people than this one brave man standing up against an entire county. you are love to spit ur bile at persons from the safety of your computer chair. when was the last time you actually got up an voiced an opinion publicly that you felt your fellow americans needed to know. instead of condemning him ask him what message he was trying to get across. TRADING YOUR FREEDOM FOR SECURITY=PROTECTED SLAVESYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:27 AMOh no, the Rob nutjob is here to sensor any view other than his own, facts are not views, as for anon, if you looked for the truth other than trying to hide from it, and actually educating your kids rather than teaching them lies like santa claus, you would be in good shape. So, lets teach our children false truths and conformity to an entity who has been caught in monstrous amounts of lies. Yes the kids need truth, how will you prepare them for the real world when you lie to them about it and give them some ferrytale version. Herd sheep, dont be one. As for your crack down on people like this, how about we go around and give people a truth test, and if they fail, they should be locked up until they learn to question what they are told before they spout off what they dont even know anything about. Jesus said if you decieve children, you should have a stone about your neck and be tossed into a river. So for the theme, we should vote to keep it in fairytale land like Rome isnt on fire?!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Casey Location: Kiel, WI on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:12 AMApparently people in Madison don't think we have the right to say things that make them feel uncomfortable. Well, get used to it. This guy has guts.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by BenF Location: usa on Jul 8, 2009 at 10:08 AMPeople don't get attacked for lying. If they did, politicians would be hesitant to lie. People really get attacked when they try to tell the truth.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anon on Jul 8, 2009 at 09:54 AMColumbus also had the freedom to select the theme of their community parade. It obviously wasn't directed to the inside 9/11. This idiot had no right to crash this parade and I hope next year they crack down on people like this from the get-go. Take your views elsewhere!! Parades are a family event, mainly for kids. They don't need this!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Rob Location: Austin, TX on Jul 8, 2009 at 09:44 AMOh No, the WRH trolls are back at it again. This guy deserves to be in jail, not for what he said, but for disrupting a public gathering that was otherwise peaceful. Then when he couldn't handle what HE instigated, he runs over people trying to flee, like the coward he is. You guys are all nutjobs.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by RSBL Location: Vermont on Jul 8, 2009 at 09:27 AMOk, so I can just throw myself in front of a moving vehicle and then complain they tried to hit me, get them arrested and then hide behind "the children" to cause more alarm. And no, it is not like yelling "fire", it was freedom of speach, you all should move to China if you dont like freedom of speech that you dont agree with. The truth is that you people parrot what the main stream media spoon feeds you, willfull ignorance does mean "dumb on purpose" research the issue before you spout off that someone who did their homework as a responsible american citizen should is a nutjob because you failed to see for yourself. sheesh, if half of you idiots tried to verify what mainstream media and our lovable government does, I think you would pee yourself. Laziness on your behalf to verify for truth is what got our country into the mess it is in now. And who is the nutjob? It doesnt make me nuts because you are ill informed. (/11 definately needs a truly independent look, not the fox/henhouse.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Robert on Jul 8, 2009 at 09:20 AMSo much for freedom of speech. Can't have anybody bucking the system. He'll probably get 10yrsYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Vox Location: Middle America on Jul 8, 2009 at 09:09 AMHe'll get beaten and wind up in one of Clinton/Bush/Obama's Death Camps.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by yesyou Location: NW USA on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:59 AMWay to go mark, Shake up the sheep a bit maybe you will change even one Slavespeak: "He truly disrupted a peaceful and happy event" 911 was an inside job ya dupesYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: Illinois on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:52 AMHow did tower 7 fall straight down when it was not touched by an airliner?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Paul Location: Australia on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:49 AMGood to see those tough, patriotic Americans clinging to their faith that their Government only ever tells the truth. Sorry, if you actually believe the official version of 911, you are beyond simple ignorance and have entered culpable stupidity territory.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Onlooker on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:37 AMI hope many more incidents like this occur. The media won't report the truth about our government because they are paid not to. But, if more of this thing occurs, they will have to report or the people who saw the event will start to wonder why. Let's face it, the Boston Tea Party was an illegal act by our Forefathers, but it sure did get the people's attention. Wake up America, our federal government does not deserve our patriotism. Patriotism means being loyal to the principles of the Constitution. It does not mean being loyal to our government. Those politicians who are not adhering to their vows to protect, defend and uphold the Constitution are traitors and like all traitors, deserve to be hung by the neck until dead.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Bentham Location: Columbus on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:28 AMAgent Provocateur. Probably DHS.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Paul Location: vancouver canada on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:21 AMThe air defenses weren't non-responsive, DICK CHENEY HELD THEM BACK! He was personally supervising air defense drills that day - he ENSURED THE PLANES HIT. Well.. except one - the one aimed for WTC7 didn't make it when ANG shot it down on local authority. You know, the one that landed in the field yet left a trail of debris 10 miles prior to the crash site. The one that was made into a hero story to distract people from thinking about it. WTC7 is THE SMOKING GUN. It's proof beyond all doubt that it was destined to be the third building hit and it came down just like WTC1 and WTC2 - from demolition, of which there is scientific proof, not just 'opinion'. Wake up people - we were lied into two wars - by the same people who lied us into vietnam.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by John Location: New York on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:14 AMRe: to Ian from Seattle: You can ask all those questions and still not see it? I ask you to read M B's post right above your own. You will find the answers there.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by itsoobvious Location: Houston, Tx on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:10 AMStop watching Faux news, and Completely Not News, They are lying to you. Do some research and figure the truth out. 9/11 - Military grade thermite was found at the site. The buildings fell at free fall speed. Tell me, when has a builiding completely collapes in this nature due to firs. Do some research and stop being brainwashed by main-stream media and go find the real truth. Please, wake up before our country turne into a complete police state.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Grinder Location: Columbus on Jul 8, 2009 at 08:06 AMListening to you people talk about inside job and how Mark is the hero is so ridiculous. Seriously. My God people. Get back on your meds. If Mark was still on his meds he would have gotten a permit for the parade. Mark is lucky to be in jail where he belongsYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by James Location: Sydney on Jul 8, 2009 at 07:45 AM9/11 was an inside job and yes we are all slaves to the privately owned central banks.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Baa Baa on Jul 8, 2009 at 07:42 AMA Hero will wake you up....You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by mr smith Location: new york on Jul 8, 2009 at 07:23 AMAs a New York native & US citizen who lost friends that were first responders on 9/11 I'm deeply saddened by some of the posts here. My friends died trying to protect our freedom & our country. Trouble is, now as more & more people (firefighters and victim's families included) are learning that the enemy they were fighting against that day WAS NOT 19 Saudis with box cutters, but rogue officials from our own government. Instead casting blind faith in a government that doesn't care about you, and doesn't listen to you, check out the facts. Do some research on your own, and then, i hope for your sake and the sake of your children that you wake up. 911 WAS DEFINITELY AN INSIDE JOB! The Federal reserve is a PRIVATE bank, and Obama is a puppet working for the same people that put bush in power. Ask yourselves this, if government cares so much for human life, why did we kill some many innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq when most of the so-called hijackers were from Saudi Arabia?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Rod Location: Buffalo on Jul 8, 2009 at 02:26 AMAlthough I support everyone's freedom to express ideas on controversial issues, I believe his methods here were ill conceived. It damages the credibility of the cause when delivered in such a way as to inflame crowds and endanger innocents, regardless of who started what. 9/11 demands intense, and calm examination, and I hope those who would attempt to enlighten people about this important issue are more careful about how their message is delivered. Rather than preach a conclusion (inside job), speak of the inconsistencies of the day's events, and the conclusions will become self-evident. This is difficult for many to accept, and they must come to the conclusions themselves for it have permanent meaning. We cannot "force" it on people.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Artthur Guy Location: England on Jul 8, 2009 at 02:14 AMWell considering 9/11 was an inide job and only really brainwashed dumbed down Americans believe the lies of your murdering Government and Media. This man like many others is a God send to the American people and these mind programed slaves that complained in this video, don't deserve these messengers, because people like these, will allow the murderers in the American Government to continue their Genocides all over the World.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by grafdog Location: usa on Jul 8, 2009 at 01:44 AMOur government insulted many peoples intelligence when they covered up facts and lied about who really did 911. They said they made mistake, but they all got promotions! Britain did the same thing with its phony 7-7 train bombings, remember when one of the "bombers" spent time arguing about getting shorted change with a shop keeper right before he boarded that bus and supposedly blew himself up. And no video evidence at all just like at the pentagon. If we are to believe the official explanation, then the wtc's collapse violated at least two laws of physics on their way down, conservation of energy, gravity, mass. Can you imagine what our world would be like without those physical laws? You might get an idea by reading a superhero comic book or a pro war hollywood movie. But i guess a lot of people dream of being a superero or in a movie so this may be as close as they can get to living the fantasy. Too bad people are so poorly educated by schools or these days by movies newsYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Archie Location: Mackay on Jul 8, 2009 at 01:11 AMI did campaign work alongside another worker for another political party, in Australia. She could not believe anyone would kill their own countrymen. I wish I had thought of how crime organisations kill their own countrymen regularly, and obviously how much more efficient their operations would become, if they bought, and then moved, into government. Like it is.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by C on Jul 8, 2009 at 12:02 AMSO did anyone actually get hurt by Mark Spinler, I didnt think so. I think he carried himself quite well.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Rampaging Manatee Location: Planet Earth on Jul 7, 2009 at 11:51 PMLOL IAN. I disagree with the 911 conspiracy people too. 19 amateur, 'devout Muslims' who drink, gamble, and attend the nudie ballet managed to stand down the USAF and vaporize millions of tons of steel. Preposterous! LOL. I disagree too, sir. LOL. I disagree. And they knew who did it because they found Mohammad Atta's passport in Lower Manhattan after the tragedy! LOL. It's easy to explain how WTC7 collapsed because the BBC and Popular Mechanics taught us how to think critically! LOL. (The BEEB reported it collapsing 23 minutes before it collapsed.) OOPS! Peer-reviewed journals proving the existence of thermate must have been a forgery or something. 700 architects and engineers who believe it was controlled demo must all be Iranian or Palestinian or something. I agree, the conspiracy people are real KOoOo0oKS!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Ron on Jul 7, 2009 at 11:34 PMKudos to you Mark Spinler, you are an American hero ... let the truth be heard!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by David Location: Seattle on Jul 7, 2009 at 11:30 PMWas 9/11 an inside job? I'm not going to say our government did it. YET. But I definitely believe we've been lied to. Watch the videos. You can't help but realize those THREE towers fell due to controlled demolition. I work in an office of engineers. For awhile I was hesitant to talk to them about this for fear of being labeled a nut job. Then I broke the ice and what I've found is that the engineers I work with AGREE - these look very much like controlled demolitions and very little like random collapse caused by fire.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Champ Location: Madison on Jul 7, 2009 at 10:11 PMLand of the free & dumb, you are lucky to have heros like Mark. Wakeup.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Waken on Jul 7, 2009 at 10:00 PMI used to think 911 truthers were nut jobs. I stumbled upon an article and that led to a few more. Do some research. You owe yourself that much.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Jack Location: new jersey on Jul 7, 2009 at 09:57 PMWe Americans love our Constitution. We know what you, the wealthy are doing, little by little taking away our freedom, our financial power, our rights and our country. Though you, the wealthy, think the people are stupid, and will just go along with your enslavement of America, but you are wrong, DEAD WRONG. It is you who are foolish, and stupid for you will not know when we have had enough until it is too late for all of you. Then the people will speak and nothing will save you. I always wondered why the wonderful people of France Chopped off their King and Queens Heads, Now I get it.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by BarbaraK on Jul 7, 2009 at 09:03 PMI lost my husband on 9/11. If you want to know what I have been through, you can watch a documentary dealing with my loss. It is called 9/11 Press for TruthYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by M B Location: Pacific NW on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:59 PMThere are but two types of people who don't believe that 911 was an inside job. There are those who worship government to the point they believe whatever they are told about events and then there are those who on some level know that 911 was in inside job but whose minds will not allow them to fully acknowledge such. ALL, I repeat ALL those who objectively examine the overwhelming evidence of controlled demolition at the WTC come to the conclusion that there were charges set prior to the impact of any jetliners.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Ian Location: Seattle on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:56 PMI don't agree with the 9/11 conspiracy people, but it is interesting how US air defenses were totally non-responsive that day. Was it because of the wargames going on that day about hijacked planes ramming into buildings? Why didn't the Secret Service hustle Bush out of that school, per their job description? Why did Bush just sit there? Why did WTC7's collapse look so much like a contolled demolition, straight down? Why did so many firefighters and other first responders in NYC report explosions in the Twin Towers? Why have several of the 9/11 Commission members disowned their own report? So many questions, and so few answers.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Joe Location: Shmoe on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:47 PMWhat a brave person. Wer need more people with courage like him. 9/11 was an inside job, and we need more Americans to accept this truth.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Alex Location: Miami Beach on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:32 PMThe man is not crazy. 911 was an inside job. Bush did refuse to even investigate it for about a year. And when he set up a phony commission to look into it, he did not give it resouces to do it with. The debris was carted off to China faster than you can say Bush. Recent discoveries of residue of high temperature agent called thermate prove that the pylons were sheared off at the base. That is why the building came down in 9 seconds flat, which has never before happened. I have no idea who did it, but I am certain that 19 "Arabs" did not do it.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Adam Location: Canada on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:31 PMLets all celebrate "Independence Day" by throwing those who say things we disagree with into jail. Maybe if some of you would open your eyes to the truth instead of relying on corporate sponsored news to educate you on the state of the world, patriots like Mark Spinler wouldn't have to get in your face trying to wake you up before its too late.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by don Location: menasha on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:02 PMits a shame someone that is endangering children and onlookers is out there shouting 911 is an inside job. I suspect this guy has a police record or is a plant. And for all of you people who are disgusted by the "nutjobs" wake up! 911 is the most in your face government operation it reeks of inside job. Spend 15 minutes on the internet with an open mind and you will have a new reason to be disgusted.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Brewmaster Location: rebellionbrewery.com on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:55 PMIf it wasn't an inside job why were a group of Israelis filming the entire event and seen giving each other high-fives. Why were hundreds of Israeli spies rounded up and deported? Why did someone make huge bets by shortselling airline stock on that exact day? Why did the owner of the building just put a hundred million dollars of insurance on the building? Why was Al Quada originally trained and supported by the CIA? Why was the flight school's airport that trained Mahammad Atta busted for a ton of heroin just a month before 9/11? Why did the hijacking perfectly coincide with a drill thus confusing the airforce and flight controllers? Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial, citing an unidentified "threat" in July 2001? Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden's family, who left the United States without further investigation? Remember, 10 members of the Bush administration were part of a think tank, PNAC, that openly stated that it needed “A New Pearl Harbor”.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Guy Fawkes Location: oregon on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:46 PMI applaude this mans courage to speak what he believes despite the fact that he has to fear for his life for doing so because of nutjob wacko's like you that would attack him instead of letting him move along with his message as is his right not simply as an american but as a human being. You'll bend over backwards to defend the violent mob that chased him down simply because you to would be in that violent mob. The first amendment was made for people like him, popular speech doesn't need protection after all. He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. Thomas PaineYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by JC Location: Florida on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:26 PMPerhaps Its not right to crash a parade, and it certainly is not right for the spectators to incite violence. Still...I have to wonder how the "terrorists" got that high tech nano-thermite inside the three wtc buildings, or if "thermal expansion", a brand new phenomenon invented by NIST to explain the global collapse causing all perimeter and internal columns to fail all at once; allowing WTC 7 fall straight down at free fall acceleration for the first 2.25 seconds, worked only once, (on 9/11), in all of history. Odd...but hey, one thing is for sure, our government would never lie to us. Newton fundamental laws of motion must have been on vacation on 9/11/01.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by gary g. Location: ct. on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:24 PMWhy did you show the vehicle in super-low resolution so we couldn't see his message? He was playing clips of Alex Jones ranting. Too all you people who hate what he did I'll bet you can't wait to send your children of to war to die for Israel. GREAT JOB MR. SPINDLER !You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Dred Location: Jersey City on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:21 PMHey "G", the biggest "Conspiracy Theory" is that 19 Arabs with box cutters bypassed a trillion dollar defense system, no jets scrambled, and all directed by a six foot six man with bad kidneys from a cave.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Ken Location: Toronto on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:17 PMGreat job Mark, nicely done. Maybe your actions will wake some people up to realize they actually have to do something instead of pretending the world is all fine. Some people will just never admit that their own government could be so evil...oh the other guy from across the ocean can be evil but not their government. Talk about self delusions google "Niels Harrit" and "nanothermite". Scientists found nanothermite in the dust from the WTC. Nanothermite is an military grade explosive, not available to anyone outside of the US military and maybe a few of their friends, at most, certainly not available to al-cia-da just do a little research if you are not stuck in your fantasy worldYou have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Mike Location: Garden Grove on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:10 PMThey got hit by his car because he was being threatened, he was trying to leave and they wouldn't get out of his way. He was technically being held against his will. They didn't have to agreee with his message. On the Fourth we celebrate our independance and freedom, including freedom of speech and expression. They were trying to abate that freedom. I support him, and If there are still people out there that believe the pc version of 9/11, and that we have legitimate government, god help them.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by hmm on Jul 7, 2009 at 03:31 PMIs that the same "G" from some other posts? I love the stuff you write - keep it coming!!!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Patriot on Jul 7, 2009 at 03:29 PM"9/11 was an inside job", whether or not anyone knew about an intended attack is irrelevant. The important thing to remember is that people who hate our country and our people made a choice to kill thousands of our fellow citizens. Ya know how he violated their right? He tried to kill them. You don't have free speech rights when you yell fire in a crowd. You don't have free speech rights when you try to run down citizens watching a parade. You should move to Pakistan and live with the rest of your clan.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by concerned Location: beaver dam on Jul 7, 2009 at 02:47 PMI was sitting at the end of the parade when the green car was approaching. I saw the man yelling at people who were booing and encouraging them to anger. Some of the floats in front were throwing candy and the kids went out to get it when he was gunning the car forwards and backwards and he got really close to some of them. He could've hit the kids( mine included) and then he would have to have dealt with me after him. If he wanted to do the freedom of speech he could've done it in a safer manner than at the parade that was a family event where someone could've been seriously hurt. I believe he is right where he needs to be in jail for his dangerous behavior!!!!!You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by G Location: Madison on Jul 7, 2009 at 01:38 PMConspiracy theorists and UFOlogists and all their followers are all nutjobs. They seem to get off on saying they've seen something or know something that happened that never happened. And then they wonder why nobody else sees things / understands things / or believes things their way and then they try to convince people by any means they can and if they cannot they then call them unbelievers, ignorant, or naive. By the way naive spelled backwards is evian, which is some peoples favorite bottled water for $1.49. These type of people are in love with themselves and love to hear themselves talk. Oh my GOD!!! global warming/UFO's/The Annointed One will save us/the world is running out of natural resources/Larger government and Higher taxes are the answer/JFK assassination/We never landed on the moon/there was no holocaust. And now I'm probably being accused of plotting to try to cover up the cover-ups. I'm so sorry for my naivete and that my life is so boring you Narcissistic Nutjobs.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by 9/11 was an inside job on Jul 7, 2009 at 01:18 PMBecause you don't like what he says he has no right to say it? How was he violating your right to life? It sounds to me that you and your MOB attacked him. Ok, GI Joe? You "git" it? You rednecks are scary.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by C Location: Madison on Jul 7, 2009 at 12:54 PMThe FBI new they were training terrorists to fly airliners, and the white house said so what, it's a free country. propoganda television. Spinler is a true patriot, not many of him left. RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about. BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB? RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." Now, the... BEN-VENISTE: Thank you.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Patriot on Jul 7, 2009 at 11:55 AMHe started the violence by forcing his way into the parade. His right to free speech ended the moment he chose to violate other people's rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As much as I hate the litigious nature of society, it would make me smile to know some of the families took him to task by filing suit. And "C", you're obviously from the same genetic pool as Spinler. Birdbrains of a feather spout nonsense together.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by American Location: Columbus on Jul 7, 2009 at 10:28 AMto C from madison: 9/11 was ABSOLUTELY NOT AN INSIDE JOB!!! If our government knew about impending danger, I am confident that they would do everything in their power to keep innocent lives safe. I am glad this was the one year I missed the parade.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Anon on Jul 7, 2009 at 09:45 AMHow in the world did this goofball manage to make it through the whole parade?You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by anonymous Location: wisconsin on Jul 7, 2009 at 08:30 AMHe's right in a way. We are all slaves to the government and it is getting worse as the days go by. The government now thinks they know what right and best for all citizens. Wont be long and we will all be a socialist society and will have Obama to thank for getting the ball rolling! The America that our founding fathers and our own fathers is not the same as it was and never will be.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Jim Location: Columbus on Jul 7, 2009 at 07:14 AMI was up by the Firestation and he went through and you could see the discusted look on everyones face up there. I was suprised that nobody jumped him earlier, but I suppose they were afraid of getting a ticket over freedom of speech. That guy is lucky that no military, law, or firefighters beat him up with all the brothers and sisters they lost in 911...You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by teresa Location: columbus on Jul 7, 2009 at 05:06 AMIt comes as no surprise to me about Mark Spinler. Last year I was in charge of arranging parades for a Candidate running for an assembly office. Some how Spinler positioned his vehicle in front of us. We made several attempts to separate from him as he came across as nervous and rebellious.At one point, almost hitting my Granddaughter with his car in an attempt to stay ahead of us. I took pictures of his vehicle. After the parade, I reported it to the Police.Due to this, he is on record from last year as a person of interest.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by chris Location: madison on Jul 6, 2009 at 11:52 PMThis was a horrible experience. I was there with my two young children, and not only was there profanity coming out of the loudspeaker, my children saw someone hit by a car! Luckily they didn't see too much graphically (hope those people are okay, it seemed like it), but how awful to have this memory of a parade. Ridiculous.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Sandra Location: Madison on Jul 6, 2009 at 10:40 PMThis story seems to me to be a glaring example of "news" that is not fully researched. I was at this parade and witnessed the violence. While Mr. Spinler's message and display was obnoxious, some people watching the parade incited the violence. The man next to my family waved a $100 bill, offering it to the first person to break out Mr. Spinler's car windows. It was at that point that Spinler's car was rushed by a growing mob. Spinler was trying to escape their violence, he was not being violent. Obnoxious, yes. Violent, no.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by C Location: Madison on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:59 PMI love it, I'm with you Mark Spinler, and both of your statements are true, 911 was an inside job to the effect that our government was warned that terrorists were going to pull that stunt several months before, the FBI who was obviously on top of it was told to stand down. And, you don't have to be very smart at all to know that with the deficits this country runs, our souls have effectively been sold off to China. Easy things to grasp, but maybe it's easier to play naive and stupid, it's one way to get others to do your work for you.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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by Kristi Location: Wisconsin on Jul 6, 2009 at 09:57 PMI watched this whole thing live, and while I believe in Freedom of Speech Mark Spinler's actions were disgraceful and dangerous to the crowd. Parents and their children were present. Several guys at the end of the route attacked his car and Spinler did hit two people with his car and almost hit others with his reckless driving. He truly disrupted a peaceful and happy event, and his reckless behavior/driving could have caused serious harm to innocent bystanders especially if he had hit a child with his car. I think the should up the charges to 1st Degree Reckless Endangerment because he could have hit a child with his car and many children were present at this event to catch candy and enjoy themselves with their parents. America does allow idiots to express themselves and hopefully Columbia County will charge this one accordingly. May he enjoy paying his fines.You have successfully replied to this comment.
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