NEW DETAILS: Murder-Suicide

Kyle Dutter
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UPDATED: Friday, November 21, 2008 --- 5:28 p.m.
REPORTER: Chris Woodard

Tuesday morning 12-year-old Kyle Dutter was shot and killed by his father, who then turned the gun on himself.

It has obviously been an emotional week for the family but Friday night they're taking time to let everyone know what type of child he was.

NBC 15's Chris Woodard spoke with Kyle's mom and sister Friday in their first television interview.

This is obviously a very difficult time for the two of them but they said they wanted to sit down and talk to let people know about what kind of kid Kyle was.

They say they want people to remember him for his personality, not his disability or the tragic way he died.

His sister Kimberly says, "We did spend a lot of time together and it was a really close relationship."

For 18 year old Kimberly Dutter, the news comes as a shock. Her 12 year old brother shot and killed by their father Ryan.

She says, "I just want people to realize how innocent he really was."

In the wake of Tuesday's murder suicide Kimberly and her mother want everyone to know what a happy and care free child Kyle was.

His mother Laura says, "He loved everybody and he wanted to be around other people."

Kyle had autism but his sister says it's something he didn't let define him. She says he loved Christmas lights, jumping on the trampoline and most of all his favorite holiday.

Laura says, "He loved Halloween. It was his favorite holiday. He talked about Halloween probably every day of the year in some way."

Kimberly says despite Kyle's disability he couldn't get enough of other people. She says he would talk to anyone who would listen, his enthusiasm lighting up any room.

Kimberly says, "He'd always say hi and he'd say how you doing to everybody and some people would not know how to react but a great majority were tickled by it and would start up conversations with him so it was pretty cool."

Both his mother and sister were shocked by Tuesday's shooting and like everyone else, may never know why Ryan decided to pull the trigger. But instead of asking questions they're reflecting on the wonderful boy they knew and loved and the effect he had on everyone who knew him.

Kimberly says, "I think he gave people a new look on life without even knowing it."

Kyle's mother says she wants to thank everyone who made an impact on Kyle's life and says some people probably don't even realize they made her child as happy as they did.


UPDATED Friday, November 21, 2008 --- 3:40 p.m.

NBC15's Chris Woodard conducted the first on-camera interview with the mother and sister of 12-year-old Kyle Dutter.

You can watch that interview on NBC15 News at 5:00 p.m., and NBC15 News at 6:00 p.m.


UPDATED: Thursday, November 20, 2008 --- 10:10 p.m.
REPORTER: Chris Woodard

The uncle of Kyle Dutter says his brother, Kyle's father, was not a violent man and dedicated his whole life to his son.

Obviously like any family would be, the Dutters say they're still in shock.

They say Ryan killing Kyle then turning the gun on himself early Tuesday comes as a total surprise from a man they say gave up everything for his son.

Ryan's Brother Mark Dutter says, "They were always together no matter what. Any time Kyle was up, Ryan was up and when Kyle would sleep Ryan would sleep. They were inseparable and Ryan just loved that and Kyle was always happy and always lit up around Ryan."

Ryan's brother says he thinks it was getting harder and harder for Ryan to see his son struggling with his disability every day.

Ryan's mother says Ryan had a big heart and was dedicating his life not only to Kyle but to all children with disabilities.

The family has set up the Ryan T. Dutter Memorial Fund at Beloit's Municipal Credit Union in hopes of helping to fund autism research and to move forward on implementing Ryan's masters thesis. It was a plan to help retired teachers work with families of disabled children.

Ryan T. Dutter Memorial Fund
Municipal Credit Union
1154 Cranston Rd
Beloit, WI 53511

Mark Dutter says, "Ryan was a big dreamer. He had a huge heart and we want to help him make his dream come true in being able to help other parents and other children like Kyle."

Ryan's brother says they were told early this morning by the UW hospital that Ryan's organs went to save the lives of five other people.

The family will be holding a memorial service for Ryan Friday evening in Beloit.

Madison police tell NBC-15 news 36-year old Ryan Dutter did leave some notes behind but they say they still don't have a clear motive.


UPDATED Thursday, November 20, 2008 --- 2:35 p.m.

Click HERE to listen to 911 call now posted on the Wisconsin State Journal website

According to the Madison Police Department:

Detectives continue to investigate this week’s tragic double shooting that claimed the lives of 12-year old Kyle Dutter and his father Ryan Dutter, age 36. Ryan Dutter did leave behind a couple of notes that have helped establish this as a murder/suicide however, the notes do not shed definitive light on any clear motive for the violence. It is believed that Ryan Dutter was the person, who called the Dane County 911 Center shortly past 9:00 a.m. Tuesday morning. The caller told a dispatcher that there was someone dead inside a vehicle that was parked in front of Haen Family Park.

There are, undoubtedly, many who would like a clear answer as to why this crime happened. Based on the investigation so far no motive has been established, and there may never be one found.

It is clear Ryan and Kyle Dutter were both deeply loved by many, and survivors will need much support from friends, family, and community in the days and months ahead.


UPDATED Wed., Nov. 19, 2008 -- 5:30 pm

Script from NBC15 News at 6:00 p.m.:

"He was a sweet kid. Making good progress here... and making some good friends," principal Tim Keeler says.

A local school struggles to heal after the murder of a student -- and the suicide of his father.

The case of a father and son found wounded in an SUV Tuesday morning is now a murder suicide.

Late Wednesday afternoon, the Dane County Coroner revealed 36-year-old Ryan Dutter died from that self inflicted gunshot wound.

Investigators say Dutter shot his 12-year-old son Kyle -- killing him -- before turning the gun on himself Tuesday.

The investigation into why this all happened is ongoing. Police revealed they did recover a firearm from the SUV. Kyle was in middle school but Tuesday, he never showed up to school. Then, staff learned of the shooting.

"Today's a little quieter," principal Tim Keeler says.

First hour at Glacier Creek Middle School began with a difficult discussion. Principal Tim Keeler says teachers shared with students the death of a classmate... 6th grader Kyle Dutter.

"We want to just give them some real simple facts about what had happened... not dwelling so much on the details but just that one of our students had been involved in an incident and had passed away."

12-year-old Kyle was new to the Middleton-Cross Plains school. These pictures come from website created for Kyle by this father. Police have not revealed why they believe Ryan Dutter killed his son and then himself. Police say an anonymous call to 911 sent officers to check the vehicle on Tree Lane on Madison's West Side. They're looking into the possibility Ryan Dutter called 911 himself. Reports indicate Kyle was autistic and had trouble communicating... but back at Glacier Creek, Keeler says he was adjusting to life in a new school.

"He was a sweet kid, making good progress here and making some good friends... "

And... impacting teachers and staff... who crossed his path. Keeler says extra staff were on hand for school Wednesday... to help the school deal with the loss.

"It' nice to relieve a teacher for a time as they talk through things with kids. And they get emotional and maybe need to step out for a while so we've been able to cover those classes and help them in that regard."

Last year, Kyle attended an elementary school in Beloit. A spokesperson for the district says Kyle's father spent a semester in his son's class as an educational assistant. Today, the Beloit district also is offering counseling to staff. The spokesperson says Kyle's grandmother worked as a teacher in the district for almost 40 years before recently retiring... but she's still involved as a volunteer, and the family is well known in the school community.


UPDATED Wednesday, November 19, 2008 --- 3:45 p.m.

The Dane County Coroner’s Office reports that father of 12 year-old Kyle Dutter was pronounced dead at University of Wisconsin Hospital this afternoon. He is identified as:

Age 36
Middleton, WI

The father died as the result of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.


UPDATED Wednesday, November 19, 2008 --- 10:35 a.m.

Counseling will be provided at Glacier Creek Middle School in Cross Plains today. That's where Kyle Dutter attended the sixth grade.

Meanwhile, NBC15 News is learning more about Kyle and his interests through his website: According to records, his father registered the site in August of this year.


UPDATED Wednesday, November 19, 2008 --- 8:50 a.m.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- A Middleton father accused of killing his 12-year-old son before shooting himself remains hospitalized in critical condition Wednesday.

Police have released no motive for the shooting. The two were found in a sport utility vehicle near a Madison park Tuesday.

Kyle Dutter's grandfather, Kenneth Bach of Beloit, says his grandson was an inquisitive boy who always had a big grin on his face.

Court records show the boy's father and mother divorced in 1999. Bach says Kyle lived with his father, Ryan Dutter, during the week and visited his mother in Beloit on weekends.

Ryan Dutter worked as a mortgage broker and filed for bankruptcy last fall.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.


UPDATED Wednesday, November 19, 2008 --- 6:30 a.m.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) --- Madison authorities say a 12-year-old boy died after being shot by his financially troubled father who then shot himself.

Both were found in a parked sports utility vehicle and rushed to the hospital.

Dane County Coroner John Stanley said Tuesday evening that the boy, Kyle Dutter of Middleton, died from a gunshot wound.

The boy's father, 36-year-old Ryan Dutter, remained hospitalized Tuesday night with injuries police called life-threatening. Records showed he had been a mortgage broker and filed for bankruptcy last fall.

Police responded to the scene just after 9 a.m. Tuesday after an anonymous caller asked that they check on the welfare of a person in the vehicle.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press.


UPDATED Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 7:47 p.m.

Dane County Coroner John Stanley says the juvenile who died is Kyle Dutter, 12, of Middleton.

The coroner says the death comes as a result of a gunshot wound from his father.

Release from the Dane County Coroner:

The Dane County Coroner has released the name of the 12-year-old child that was the victim of the shooting this morning on the west side of Madison. The child is identified as:

Age 12
Middleton Wisconsin

Preliminary investigation indicates that Kyle Dutter died as the result of a gunshot wound inflicted by his father, who remains hospitalized after sustaining an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

This incident remains under investigation by the City of Madison Police, and the Dane County Coroner’s Office.


UPDATED Tuesday, Nov. 18, 2008 4:45 pm

"My biggest concern is whether there's somebody still out here with a weapon," a neighbor said Tuesday morning.

Neighbors wonder -- and worry -- as police discover two gunshot victims inside of an SUV on the city's west side. One of them suffering deadly injuries.

Police say a boy found wounded inside of the SUV has died. Police found the two shooting victims parked on Tree Lane at South High Point Road shortly after 9 o'clock this morning. Police say the victims are father and son. Officers went to the area after an anonymous call came into the 911 center, telling police to check the vehicle.

"I couldn't find a way back into our neighborhood."

Susan Nelson lives blocks from the scene.

"I'm planning to go back home because I don't think if there have been weapons fired that I want anyone home alone."

Within minutes of finding two gunshot victims inside of a black SUV, police blocked off the intersection of Tree Lane and South High Point Road.

"It just looked like they were running around a vehicle down there," Judy Siegert says.

Siegert's backyard faces Haen Family Park, where police found the SUV... with a man and a boy -- both of them suffering life threatening gunshot wounds.

"It makes you feel a little uneasy when it's so close, yes."

But police call the shooting an isolated incident.

"After speaking with investigators, we do not believe there's any general threat to the community at this time... that this was an isolated incident," Joel DeSpain with MPD says.

Madison Police believe the man suffered a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The say the boy is his son. Investigators have not yet released his age other than saying he's more than ten years old, and the two did not live in this West Side neighborhood where they were found.

"I think you can get that anywhere. It's unfortunate. It's just the world we live in," Christina Sosnowski says.

Police will not yet say whether investigators recovered a weapon at the scene. The Dane County Coroner also has not yet revealed the name of the boy, or his father.


UPDATED Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 3:50 p.m.

From the Madison Police Department:

The male juvenile who was shot this morning has died from his injuries.

His father remains hospitalized with what appears – at this stage of the investigation – to be self-inflicted gunshot wound.

The father and son did not live in the neighborhood where the SUV was found.

This remains an open and active investigation and no further information will be released at this time. It will be up to the Dane County Coroner to release the name of the victim.


UPDATED Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 2:45 p.m.

Incident report from Madison Police Department:

At 9:11 this morning the Madison Police Department responded to the area of Tree Lane and High Point Road following an anonymous call to the Dane County 911 Center.

Based on what the caller said officers determined they needed to check on the welfare of an individual who was said to be inside a black SUV.

A black SUV was discovered parked near Haen Family Park, which is on Tree Lane. Inside were two gunshot victims. One is an adult male. The other is a juvenile. Both were transported to a local hospital with life threatening injuries.

Investigators believe this was an isolated incident, and that there is no ongoing threat to the neighboring community.


UPDATED Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 1:20 p.m.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- Two people have been found shot in a sports utility vehicle on Madison's west side.

One of them is an adult male and the other a juvenile. Their conditions are not known. Police confirm the juvenile is older than 10-years-old, suffering from life-threatening injuries.

Police spokesman Joel DeSpain declined to say what the relationship is between the man and boy.

An anonymous call was made to the 911 center directing police to the black SUV near Haen Family Park.

Police say there is no threat to the community.

Police say an anonymous call came into the 911 center shortly after 9:00 am Tuesday morning. Police classified the call as a welfare check. At the scene, police found two people, suffering from gunshot wounds, inside of a black colored SUV on Tree Lane. They were taken to a local hospital.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


UPDATED Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 10:50 a.m.

Reporters were just briefed by Madison Police Spokesperson, Joel DeSpain.

Two people were shot: an adult male and a juvenile (sex unknown at this time). Both were found in a dark-colored SUV, parked near a park along Tree Lane.

Both victims were transported to a local hospital.

An anonymous caller notified authorities to respond the area shortly after 9 am Tuesday morning.


Tuesday, November 18, 2008 --- 9:30 a.m.

Police are investigating a shooting that occurred this morning at Tree Lane and South High Point Road.

There appear to be two victims.

NBC15's Dana Brueck is at the scene, gathering information. Madison Police Spokesperson Joel DeSpain will brief reporters in just a few minutes.

Watch NBC15 News at 11:00 a.m. for a LIVE report.